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Old 12-26-2019, 02:08 PM
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I'm new to boating. I put my boat in Jordan Lake today in NC and my five year old, my 14 year old, my 85 year old uncle, and myself went out to enjoy the day.

There's a bridge that separates the part of the lake I was in from the part of the lake I wanted to go to. There must be good fishing at the bridge; I wouldn't know, I don't fish, but there were at least 20 boats anchored under the bridge to where I had to very carefully pick my way through. It's a no wake zone.

I slowed to about three MPH to make sure I didn't screw anyone's fishing up, but those guys were screaming and yelling about how I needed to slow down, even while I was coasting in neutral. One guy told me that going under the bridge was a good way to get shot, so I explained to the guy that a) both my uncle and I are Marines, are armed, and would defend ourselves and our family aggressively, and b) that maybe an active thoroughfare wasn't an ideal place to fish. I then got the hell away from those assholes and enjoyed other parts of the lake. I didn't put the boat in the water to kill rednecks in front of my kids, and I have no interest in being in a fight I can move away from.

Insane, I know, but then I got to thinking- did I do something wrong? Is there some etiquette to this? I slow to no wake in no wake zones, obey boating laws, and even slow down and give a wide berth to fisherman I see out on the lake because I know it'll help them out. Is there something about the bridges I'm doing wrong?

I've been to this lake a bunch on jetskis and it's always been a friendly place. Any tips here in a boat?
Old 12-26-2019, 02:11 PM
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No not at all, on my lake fishing between the buoys under the bridge and you will get pushed our!! They are 100% wrong!,
Old 12-26-2019, 02:12 PM
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I have a friend that lives in the Triangle and he fishes at Jordan Lake all the time. Never said anything like what you're describing. He typically fishes on a Kayak though. I'll check with him next time I see him.

Seems ridiculous to get a reaction like you described.
Old 12-26-2019, 02:15 PM
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Iím not surprised. There are some real rednecks down in that area, I have seen all sorts of missing teeth trashy behavior on that lake. They will fish under that bridge, around docks or where ever they like and everyone else is an a-hole to them. As for no wake if you were not throwing a wake I would not worry.

Honestly they were probably a bit turned off as the lake during good weather months is absolutely overrun by d-bags in wake boats blasting their music. Itís like Jersey invades the lake in the summer

are you new to the area or Jordan?
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I assume that was a marked channel and no other way to get to other side o bridge. In that case.. they were a bunch of idiots cluttering the waterway. You are right. Unfortunately in todays age people that are clearly and legally wrong assume they know everything and rules, laws and ettiquette do hot apply to them. The law of who shouts the loudest rules is in vogue.
Old 12-26-2019, 02:19 PM
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Your friend isn't lying! The place is super friendly in the way that NC so often is, and that vibe is one if the main reasons I've been home in NC for the past decade and a half. Also, I've never seen so many fisherman under that bridge, so maybe there was big money on the line, a contest or something? Shit, I don't know. Also, it's a challenge getting a 32' long 10' wide tritoon through there, so I was closer to some of those guys than either of us would have liked. Nor ally they leave at least the center channel open, but today they were plugging the whole damned thing up.

Odd. Ok, so I wasn't wrong, I just happened upon a bad situation.. if it happens again, who do you call for backup? I have no problem heading overseas and defending our country, but I'm not interested in trading bullets with fisherman. It was ugly.

Thanks.
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Old 12-26-2019, 02:21 PM
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Just do like many around here, hang some fenders off the sides and plow on through right below planing speed (max wake). When they start hollering, wave back like you think they're just saying hi. Bonus points if you've got the stereo blasting.
Old 12-26-2019, 02:24 PM
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Sounds to me like they were blocking the route , you have just as much right to use that area as they do...
Old 12-26-2019, 02:25 PM
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Nope you did fine. In fact if you were feeling froggy you could do it 5 or 6 times before you make up your mind on which side of the bridge you want to be on.

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Sounds like you must have just floated into some preexisting conditions. Also seems like you were polite enough. ...I know a guy who would have trimmed up and rooster tailed them all --I don't associate with him though. Also, I might have left the quasi-brandishing comments out of the ensuing discussions. All it takes is one smart but deceptive complainant and one cop having a bad day.
Old 12-26-2019, 02:35 PM
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I wasn't brandishing and I wasn't kidding. You threaten my family and put me in a spot I can't escape and I'll do everything I can to make sure we don't talk about it again. It was a warning. That part I'm not unsure about and I stand by it. I'd like to know who the correct authority is to report this to so I can avoid it in the future.
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I deal with that type of behavior as well I have gone into a cove to anchor where someone is fishing I always give at least 50 yards distance from where they are .Then they make their way closer and then cast about a foot from my boat after about the 4th one ill sit on the swim deck and splash and exchange pleasantries its happens twice a year of so . I had one guy tell me that if he is fishing the cove its illegal for me to anchor because its illegal to interfere with a licensed fisherman . I dont understand how some people think if they have a fishing rod the water belongs to them as far as the eye can see .
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The world is full of assholes....
Never fails, you are trying to mind your own business and you run into one of them...
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That’s some peculiar behavior on their part. In my neck of the woods the fisherman that fish the bridges will tip their hat and waive to you if you show them the courtesy of slowing down to idle speed when passing through. A lot of skippers who don’t know better Will only slow down to like 10 knts. and piss everyone off there. The “pleasure boaters” in their cabin cruisers are the usual suspects. They are usually naive to the wakes they are throwing when passing the fisherman at the bridges.
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Ignore them and motor past at what u feel is a non wake speed,
Old 12-26-2019, 03:31 PM
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The only thing it sounds like you did wrong was telling him you were a Marine. What does that have to do with anything?
If you ever wonder if someone is a Marine or not, don't worry - they will let you know within the first couple of sentences of a conversation with them.
That bridge is extremely popular with crappie fishermen this time of year. About the only thing different you likely could have done was to come completely down to idle speed, not 3 mph - that's actually pretty fast for a choked waterway, and motored through there. And I mean "idle" - as in come to a complete stop, put the boat in forward gear, then proceed. Maybe if you would have come to a stop it would have given some of the boaters time to prepare and move over just a little bit to better accommodate you.
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I couldnít care less what you think about the Marine Corps or Marines or what we have to say about it. My uncle fought in Korea and I served during Desert Storm. Iíll tell anyone I deem fit, Iíve earned it, and God knows he has. We talk about it as a group because it's one of the best things we've ever done and we don't ever forget. Not him at 85, nor me at 46.

The rest of your post describes exactly what I did, idle and all. I think I just ran into the wrong bunch. Who would one call about such an issue?
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Old 12-26-2019, 03:59 PM
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Your law contact would be fish & game enforcement, or Sheriffs office, probably. This is where Iíd inquire about the local laws and specifically activities around the bridge. If an incident escalates, just call 911.
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Thanks guys! I'll keep that in mind next time. Really appreciate the advice.
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Its courteous to idle past people fishing
even in a channel.
No wake....means no wake, not small wake

We have similar issues all the time in a few congested areas where half the boaters think 2000 rpm is idle, because they are in hurry. Or people troll around people who are anchored.

If you are truly idling by, tell assholes to have a nice day, and continue on your way.

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