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Old 12-26-2019, 12:27 PM
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Hey all, just thought I would throw this out for some opinions/thoughts.

I currently have (and its pretty perfect) a JB 34 WA-see thread for details
Jarrett Bay 34 Ex February run to Exuma

Great boat, and since I spend most of my boating time ranging quite far to the out islands the range and seaworthiness of this boat is second to none. That said, in terms of accommodations shes quite sparse, a small v berth, cabin with small fridge, A/C, hot water, Mase 2.7 gen, full stand up head. As time goes on, I am starting to consider looking at express boats (same size, 34ish feet). Scout 350 Abaco is one that popped up, along with some Grady Whites, etc...

My worry is what would I be giving up moving from a JB and over to production boats? Am I just better off to work with what I have, maybe discuss with JB to get some extras fitted (cockpit galley, convertible dinette, work with the wheelhouse seating to come up with some amenities)?

Or is it always just better to sell, and buy a boat that is already configured? Peoples requirements change over time, so does that force us into selling a great boat in order to satisfy some of those changing requirements, or can we (within reason, assuming you are starting with a fundamentally solid boat) modify or build on what we already have?

Bottom line is I am not looking to go bigger, in fact I expressly want to stay at or under 35ft. And since in terms of the size, range, seaworthiness-my boat is perfect, just not quite outfitted for longer live aboard trips.

That said-there are some amazing bang for the buck boats for sale, that have full amenities (more than I would need in fact)-down right luxurious...and at pretty reasonable prices.

Anyways, just thinking right now so thanks to all for any insight-

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Assuming you want to stay Outboards? If not, a 35 Carolina Classic would fit the bill.
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I don't know of any similar sized boat that can hold a candle to the JB, in terms of perceived quality and stunning beauty. Lots of boats with softer amenities, but not any you wont be embarrassed to dance with. Whoa... I am shallow.

You may need to transition from "semi-custom" to "full custom". Good luck.

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Old 12-26-2019, 04:21 PM
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Pursuit 345 would be my choice in the class you are shopping. The build quality is first rate, it is well appointed and beautiful.
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ight, Imma head out...
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Thanks for some views-definitely lots of good boats in that size range. I think OC is bringing up more of what my concerns are-
JB builds an outstanding hull-am I better to work within the scope of the boat I have vs looking at production boats (such as the Pursuit, which is a great looking boat, but is it on par with a JB?).

Or as OC says, once custom (or in the case of the 34, semi custom) always a custom.

The boat is a true battlewagon-she’s just missing some creature comforts. Lots of boats out there with comfort-how do they compare with my JB’s seakeeping?

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Gonna be tough to beat the ride you get in a Carolina custom boat. Not a whole lot out there, but find a Carolina express boat.
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Originally Posted by dbala View Post
Thanks for some views-definitely lots of good boats in that size range. I think OC is bringing up more of what my concerns are-
JB builds an outstanding hull-am I better to work within the scope of the boat I have vs looking at production boats (such as the Pursuit, which is a great looking boat, but is it on par with a JB?).

Or as OC says, once custom (or in the case of the 34, semi custom) always a custom.

The boat is a true battlewagon-shes just missing some creature comforts. Lots of boats out there with comfort-how do they compare with my JBs seakeeping?
just curious, what creature comforts are you missing? Im looking in the 33-34 range and I go between go fast vs. some type of protection/more comfort like the JB34. They dont come up for sale very often as there were not a lot of them and there isnt a lot of real world experience on them.
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No idea of budget- but something like this would be sweet.

Xcelerator 35' Express Build

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Check out the new Intrepid 345 walk around. Seems like what you are looking for. GL
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Could see a Hinckley or Back Cove checking a lot of boxes for you. Why not just refit the jb with the features you'd like? Great platform.
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Interesting input-that xcelerator is awesome but over my budget. In terms of comfort-not so much ride (she’s dry and solid) more in terms of live aboard-galley, dinette, bunk/berth.
the JB is well set up for 2 guys, or overnight stays-but being a WA it lacks some of the elements you find in an express. But has the advantage that WA’s bring for fishing, and overall ease of operation in all conditions due to full and safe movement bow to stern.

That said-Intrepid 345 is a great looking boat.

I guess I am not really looking for brands-its more of an existential question related to moving out of a custom JB and into a production boat. Kind of a ‘what would I have to give up’ sort of question....and is it worth it? Should I go back to JB and see if there is an economic way to add some features to what is effectively a great boat, or would the cost investment be better served by simply buying a production boat of similar value (but that has more of the express/live aboard features)?



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I believe Id find a way to make that rig work
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I would have bought this boat full ask ur 2 days late but I got a sweet boat 37 strike walkaround it just a little to big for me
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You have the best boat under 35 period
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Couple questions that may help you think this out.

1.Do you have pride in ownership knowing you have a rare and unique build? Im sure a lot people ask you about the boat when youre out and about. If you like having a conversation piece, you may regret going to a production based boat. Thats the intangible factor that you will need to decide.

2. How many nights/overnight trips are you really going to stay in/use the cabin? Do you have the desire to take more people with you?

3. The walkaround feature is amazing if you fish. No getting that back with an express.

4. If you just want the amenities you listed. I think they could be reasonably refitted inside your pilot house. Id go with some fiberglass leaning posts with the features you want built in. I looked at your pics and right now you dont have much in that area.

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Contact bills106 on the board, or call him at lightning yachts and have him build you whatever you want.
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This is what I like about THT....lots of great insight.....and in a way I probably answered my own questions, and many of you echoed and /or confirmed things. I do have a huge amount of pride in owning something special, and in this size range she may very well be the best thing on the water.

As Arosmarin stated- I need to establish exactly what I think I am missing, how often and how many people I need to be able to overnight and then see what can be added without breaking the bank or degrading the boat.

The other intangible (or maybe its a tangible) is the fact that I have a lot of blue water miles, some easy, some not so easy, on this boat.....and she never let me down. In fact, I doubt I ever even got close to her limits-even far from safety, in conditions that larger boats were reluctant to leave port she was solid. Trustworthy and way more chill about being out there than I was....
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You essentially have a (Semi) production boat. Its fiberglass but unique without question. My suggestion for overnighters is a midsize Carolina Classic or Albemarle, if you have the coin call Bills106 and have him build you a custom. You lose the uniqueness and ease of trailering of the JB but you gain comfort and a clear transom. If I lived in Florida I'd want your boat, in the mid-atlantic for offshore or overnight I'd want a convertible or express.

Beautiful boat BTW!
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