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Old 12-19-2019, 03:19 PM
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Hi,

I spun a hub on my 2016 Suzuki DF300 (counter rotating) a few months ago as I was taking the boat to get pulled out before hurricane Dorian hit. Motor/prop only has ~450 hours on it.

My boat guy told me that re-hubbing a prop is never as strong as an original, so I just bought a whole new (upgraded?) prop. The idea of spinning it again while offshore or in the Bahamas wasn't worth the savings of rehubbing over buying new to me.

Anyways, now I have a prop in my garage that looks beautiful, but has a spun hub.

Is it worth anything? Or should I trash it?

Before you say have it re-hubbed and keep it as a spare, I already have a pair of aluminum spares I keep on the boat.

Thanks in advance!

Jeff

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I have never had problems with a prop after having it rehabbed. Putting a new hub in a prop is very common.
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Im not familiar with that hub
many use the user changeable hub design today, but sounds like a pressed hub.

Ive had several re-hubbed after strike/spinning or being burnt out to remove prop frozen on shaft. Never had issues with any re-hub, never heard it not being as good.

The factory presses the fixed hub in too.....so my radar says ..hogwash. What could they do differently? Its designed to only grip so well, to spin on contact and protect motor. Sounds to me like somebody wanted to sell you a prop.

Get it rehubbed and sell it if you dont want it. Its worth a couple hundred $ most likely, unless needs other work from strike. or you might could trade it in at a prop shop for credit towards a different pitch prop if you wanted to change. Its not worthless by any means.

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Not really sure what you want...you already addressed the issue. You don't even want/need it at this point. Sell it cheap for what it is.
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Originally Posted by Bigfish416 View Post
I have never had problems with a prop after having it rehabbed. Putting a new hub in a prop is very common.
Thanks for the insight.

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Im not familiar with that hub
many use the user changeable hub design today, but sounds like a pressed hub.

Ive had several re-hubbed after strike/spinning or being burnt out to remove prop frozen on shaft. Never had issues with any re-hub, never heard it not being as good.

The factory presses the fixed hub in too.....so my radar says ..hogwash. What could they do differently? Its designed to only grip so well, to spin on contact and protect motor. Sounds to me like somebody wanted to sell you a prop.

Get it rehubbed and sell it if you dont want it. Its worth a couple hundred $ most likely, unless needs other work from strike. or you might could trade it in at a prop shop for credit towards a different pitch prop if you wanted to change. Its not worthless by any means.
Re: selling me a prop, he doesn't mark up the stuff he buys for me, just charges me for the install. He's not trying to get one over on me.

Couple hundred for re-hubbed? Thanks, that's what I was trying to figure out. I don't think I hit anything when it spun and it certainly shows no damage.

Any ideas what it's worth as is? And where should I sell? eBay?

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Not really sure what you want...you already addressed the issue. You don't even want/need it at this point. Sell it cheap for what it is.
How much is cheap? And where do you suggest I sell it? eBay?

Thanks everyone!

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Not familiar with Suzuki hubs, but my local prop shop charges $60 to re-rub Yamaha props. There's always a chance that the new hub will fail, but it will likely do it right away if it's going to.
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I think it was a little more common 15 years ago or so for a spun hub to just happen again, but its usually the first time you take it out(And most shops would just press another in and you would be good to go). Personally if it was me I would get it fixed and take it out on a short trip and then keep as a spare in the boat.
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Its worth what someone is willing to pay.
faced with needing a new prop, pitch change, etc and spending $600 or $300. Many will choose $300.

I havent sold prop in years, or one that big. But 50% of new price would be fair used imo, maybe 75%, with new hub in perfect condition. If you dont need it, anything is better than nothing. You could also have it tweaked for heavier or lighter loads and keep it. Years ago i sold a few thru craigslist.

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Personally, I would get it Rehubbed and keep it as a spare. Spun hubs happen and if it were to happen during one of those super inconvenient times, having a backup that you have already paid for would be super handy.
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I could use it if you could ship it on my dime.
I'm repowering with the same engine.
pm me if interested
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Originally Posted by jCane13 View Post
Hi,

I spun a hub on my 2016 Suzuki DF300 (counter rotating) a few months ago as I was taking the boat to get pulled out before hurricane Dorian hit. Motor/prop only has ~450 hours on it.

My boat guy told me that re-hubbing a prop is never as strong as an original, so I just bought a whole new (upgraded?) prop. The idea of spinning it again while offshore or in the Bahamas wasn't worth the savings of rehubbing over buying new to me.

Thanks in advance!

Jeff
Did John tell you that?
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Total bull crap your guy was definitely talking advantage of you. Nothing wrong with putting a new hub in a prop same as before if your but quality and hopefully oem
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If the replacement hub used is OEM, rehubbing should not be inferior to an original installation.

Be mindful that not all prop shops are the same nor use the same lubricant. It is also import to wait a day or two before using a rehubbed prop after the hub was installed.

Cost should be well under $100.
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To me it depends on the hub used and the tooling (Press) available at the prop shop. The hub cavity is cast and doesn’t change.

If I was buying a new prop, the modular hub systems would be a requirement today.
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Originally Posted by jCane13 View Post
Thanks for the insight.



Re: selling me a prop, he doesn't mark up the stuff he buys for me, just charges me for the install. He's not trying to get one over on me.

Couple hundred for re-hubbed? Thanks, that's what I was trying to figure out. I don't think I hit anything when it spun and it certainly shows no damage.

Any ideas what it's worth as is? And where should I sell? eBay?



How much is cheap? And where do you suggest I sell it? eBay?

Thanks everyone!

Jeff
You can easily sell right here on THT. I also spun both hubs on my Zukes last summer and decided to upgrade to the better more recent design Suzuki now makes - the Watergrip hub, which has a less likely possibility of slipping due to a heavy Bahamas load. Once I purchased the new props, I had 3 spares - 2 of which were with spun hubs. I kept the 3rd one as a back-up in case I ever fold a blade and bought 2 interchangeable back-up hubs for the new Watergrip props. I sold the other 2 props with spun hubs for something like $300 -$400 (for both).
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The problem with the older Suzuki (Solas) props is the thin, sub par hub casting that "stretches" for lack of a better term when enough force spins the hub. I have been through this twice on two different Suzuki props where the replaced hub spun within 50 hours of use. I'm not sure how the new Water Grip Suzuki props are but I think they are doing something different with the hub. I made the switch to Mercury props a few years back and couldn't be happier. Much better performance out of my DF300 and the hub is user replaceable.
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Some just use a hexagonal shaped hub and you don't even have to press it in, it just drops right in. Anyway I'd have your nice prop re-hubbed and just save it in the garage. If you ever damage your nice prop and need to send it off to be reworked or re-hubbed then you'll have an identical one ready to slap on while the second one gets fixed.
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Originally Posted by STIPulation View Post
Not familiar with Suzuki hubs, but my local prop shop charges $60 to re-rub Yamaha props. There's always a chance that the new hub will fail, but it will likely do it right away if it's going to.
$60 is cheaper than I expected to re-hub. Thanks.

Originally Posted by Lifegoeson View Post
I think it was a little more common 15 years ago or so for a spun hub to just happen again, but its usually the first time you take it out(And most shops would just press another in and you would be good to go). Personally if it was me I would get it fixed and take it out on a short trip and then keep as a spare in the boat.
Already have the spare aluminum pair of hubs I carry on the boat. Thanks!

Originally Posted by mbb View Post
Its worth what someone is willing to pay.
faced with needing a new prop, pitch change, etc and spending $600 or $300. Many will choose $300.

I havent sold prop in years, or one that big. But 50% of new price would be fair used imo, maybe 75%, with new hub in perfect condition. If you dont need it, anything is better than nothing. You could also have it tweaked for heavier or lighter loads and keep it. Years ago i sold a few thru craigslist.
$300 would be great if I could get it. Tweaking it doesn't make sense since I'd have to have another for the other motor. Craigslist isn't a bad idea as long as I can ship it... not into meeting random people in parking lots .

Originally Posted by Rapchizzle View Post
Personally, I would get it Rehubbed and keep it as a spare. Spun hubs happen and if it were to happen during one of those super inconvenient times, having a backup that you have already paid for would be super handy.
I guess I could do this. But I feel like I could use the aluminum ones if I needed to and it's a big, heavy box in the garage that I'd rather not have to store.

Originally Posted by tiara tim View Post
I could use it if you could ship it on my dime.
I'm repowering with the same engine.
pm me if interested
thanks
Hey, I think I'm going to see if I can get a few bucks out of it, but if I can't and I want to get rid of it, I'd be happy to ship it to you. I'll let you know if it comes to that.

Originally Posted by Jus Teasin View Post
Did John tell you that?
Can neither confirm nor deny. Having said that, I may be misrepresenting what was said. Maybe it was more of a "the new hubs are much better and less likely to spin than your old one (which would now be re-hubbed."

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Total bull crap your guy was definitely talking advantage of you. Nothing wrong with putting a new hub in a prop same as before if your but quality and hopefully oem
He can't take advantage of me if he's not making any money on selling me the new prop... He's a good dude who takes care of me and my boat and I trust him fully. Non-issue for me.

Originally Posted by Tom W Clark View Post
If the replacement hub used is OEM, rehubbing should not be inferior to an original installation.

Be mindful that not all prop shops are the same nor use the same lubricant. It is also import to wait a day or two before using a rehubbed prop after the hub was installed.

Cost should be well under $100.
Thanks for the info. Not sure I want to sink $100 into a prop that I may not be able to sell or have a need to use ever again though.

Originally Posted by captbone View Post
To me it depends on the hub used and the tooling (Press) available at the prop shop. The hub cavity is cast and doesn’t change.

If I was buying a new prop, the modular hub systems would be a requirement today.
Already bought the new one and didn't know there was even a different option. Next time!

Originally Posted by scubaholic View Post
You can easily sell right here on THT. I also spun both hubs on my Zukes last summer and decided to upgrade to the better more recent design Suzuki now makes - the Watergrip hub, which has a less likely possibility of slipping due to a heavy Bahamas load. Once I purchased the new props, I had 3 spares - 2 of which were with spun hubs. I kept the 3rd one as a back-up in case I ever fold a blade and bought 2 interchangeable back-up hubs for the new Watergrip props. I sold the other 2 props with spun hubs for something like $300 -$400 (for both).
Hey Michael! Good to hear from you.

Good point on trying to sell on THT.
And now that you say it, the Watergrip is what he replaced mine with as well. He said it was much better. So now I'm just waiting for the other side to go .

So you think ~$150 for the prop with the spun hub is reasonable?

Originally Posted by kmoose View Post
The problem with the older Suzuki (Solas) props is the thin, sub par hub casting that "stretches" for lack of a better term when enough force spins the hub. I have been through this twice on two different Suzuki props where the replaced hub spun within 50 hours of use. I'm not sure how the new Water Grip Suzuki props are but I think they are doing something different with the hub. I made the switch to Mercury props a few years back and couldn't be happier. Much better performance out of my DF300 and the hub is user replaceable.
Interesting-- I didn't know you could mix-and-match brands like that. Thanks!

Originally Posted by Jim311 View Post
Some just use a hexagonal shaped hub and you don't even have to press it in, it just drops right in. Anyway I'd have your nice prop re-hubbed and just save it in the garage. If you ever damage your nice prop and need to send it off to be reworked or re-hubbed then you'll have an identical one ready to slap on while the second one gets fixed.
I think the aluminum spares are probably good enough for me. And garage space is at a premium in my house haha. Thanks!


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Originally Posted by jCane13 View Post


Hey Michael! Good to hear from you.

Good point on trying to sell on THT.
And now that you say it, the Watergrip is what he replaced mine with as well. He said it was much better. So now I'm just waiting for the other side to go .

So you think ~$150 for the prop with the spun hub is reasonable?


Jeff
Very reasonable - if there are no dings in the blades. Figure they will have to spend $90 to re-hub plus $150 - $200, they are saving quite a bit over the approximate $550 for a new set-up.
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lol I have the same issue, same year Zuki engine and same spun hub on port motor. I am planning on fixing mine (I too was quoted $150) and keep as spare. I changed to Merc Eco Enertias and I like these much better, AND they have a field replaceable hub.

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