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Old 12-09-2019, 04:12 PM
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I was in my dentist's waiting room today and read an article in the December 2019 issue of Boating Magazine titled "5 reasons to repower" where on engine dealer said that many customers repower every three to five years just to insure maximum reliability. I wondered if this repower frequency is really as common as the article suggests. I'm interested in what some Hull Truth readers think about repower frequency. For someone who decides to repower after three to five years, what is the best way to get rid of the old engine, sell it or trade it in? What is the trade in value of a three to five year old outboard compared to the cost of a new one?

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12-09-2019, 04:25 PM
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I believe the majority of boaters are silent, don't visit this forum and run them till they die and are no longer repairable before they buy new ones. Just a hunch.
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The quote came from the guy that sells the engines!!! I dont think it is as common as he might like
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I believe the majority of boaters are silent, don't visit this forum and run them till they die and are no longer repairable before they buy new ones. Just a hunch.
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Depends on use. Offshore 3-5 years about right. Lake/bay/river run it until it dies.

but will add most people that repower with new power often have the means to do so easy. No down time for repairs plays a huge factor for busy people.
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I usually repower every 4 to 5 yrs. I have been buying Suzuki with the 6 yr warranty which makes the sale more attractive to the buyer because it still has a warranty on it. I will be putting my zuk up for sale in the spring but this time it will have 6yrs on it. and the reason why I waited was because I only have 220 hrs on it. I usually check with my zuk dealer to see what a new one will cost then I sell it on my own and I ask half of a new one. its usually sold in two weeks. I cant tell you what the value is at the time compared to the new but I have been successful the way I have been doing it
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Are you guys re-powering based on years or hours? Yearly usage can vary widely with different boat users, how many hours until you repower on offshore boats?
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My $.02, in aviation two airplanes make me nervous. One that has had major maintenance and a brand new one. The plane that has been operating fine for years will probably be fine tomorrow. My merc 4S 150 has been reliable for the last 6.5yrs and 900hrs, why in the world would I take it off? Makes no sense to me.
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. My merc 4S 150 has been reliable for the last 6.5yrs and 900hrs, why in the world would I take it off? Makes no sense to me.[/QUOTE]

I have same engine, my goal is 2k hours!
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I usually get a new boat every decade or so. Never felt a need to repower.
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Originally Posted by jobowker View Post
I usually get a new boat every decade or so. Never felt a need to repower.
Im of the same mindset but Id say roughly 1k hours on offshore engines and Id be looking to repower, just my peace of mind. Crazy when you think of how many hours you put on trucks before replacing, different animals I know.
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Originally Posted by Fyre Escape View Post
Im of the same mindset but Id say roughly 1k hours on offshore engines and Id be looking to repower, just my peace of mind. Crazy when you think of how many hours you put on trucks before replacing, different animals I know.
The faster you put hours on, the more hours you'll get out of it.
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I have 22 year old Honda 130s, 2 of the first 3,000 built and they keep humming along. 200s are in the future but I want to get other things done first.
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I repowered 19 yrs ago.....
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I know a lot of guys that do the 4-5 year swap due to warranty. I cant justify the expense personally. I have 8 year old well maintained triples and I can plane on two. Ill take my chances for now
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I agree with much that has already been said. For the majority of boaters I believe it comes down to dollars and cents. If you have enough disposable income to put new engines on your boat every 600 to 800 hrs than you probably do. Just like guys who can afford a 32 yellowfin probably buy that in lieu of a Sea Hunt. However, with today's modern engines there is no reason that you shouldn't expect to get 2500 to 3000 hrs out of a well maintained engine and if you're someone who boats a lot lets say 800 per year than getting 5000 to 7000 hrs is very reasonable.

There is absolutely no reason that an outboard engine should all of a sudden become unreliable once the 1000 hr. mark has been breached IMO.
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I repower when it dies.
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Also, my old carb merc 150 was still running when I decided to repower. It wasn’t until it started to nickel and dime to death (motor mounts, stator, trigger, coils, trim motor, etc) that I swapped it out.
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Commercial guides, sponsored tournament fishermen, and people that put a bunch of hours on a motor repower. Most guys run them until they have too many issues or die. If a motor leaves you twice even if its a small issue most people send it up the road, because they no longer trust it, it could be a small issue but the trust is gone. Also kinda like a car, easier to resell a 3-5 year old motor under warranty than a 10 year old motor. My mind set is that at 10 years its probably mechanically okay but hoses and wires dry rot causing problems.
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Overriding problem
many people dont do PREVENTATIVE maintenance
They do repairs

Electronic components dont last forever
Electrical winding shellac-like insulation fails
Rubber and plastic gets brittle and cracks

Aircraft, are not allowed to age. Mandatory inspections and teardowns. Treat boat same way...it will last forever. Problem, its $$$$

Outboard engines rarely actually wear out
They die from corrosion, lack of lubrication, lack of cooling, water ingestion, or running lean. All can be prevented in most cases.











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I have a 20 year old Proline that I bought a few years back with the original 200 hp Johnson 2 stroke. The engine was carbuerated so was a little hard to start when cold but once started it ran reliably all day long and never gave me a minutes trouble. That said, it did not have an hour meter so I had no idea how much use it had actually gotten. Plus it drank gas like crazy. So I decided to repower with a new 300 HP 4 stroke because I love the boat and intend to keep it for a reasonable period of time. What I got in return was 75% improvement in fuel economy, a known quantity in terms of hours/maintenance history, ability to keep the boat on plane at much lower speeds (great in rough water) and the quietness of a 4 stroke so my wife and I can carry on a conversation with our guests while we are running. So for me the decision was driven not only by reliability but also several other factors that make the boat much more enjoyable to operate.
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