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Old 11-29-2019, 10:19 PM
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I am pretty new to this forum. I have been doing a lot of research. For starters I own a 2010 22' Boulton (prior to the offshore bracket) with a 225 hp Honda. I am looking at getting a bigger boat. I want to go further offshore (tuna fishing) and I want to feel good when crossing the bar. I am considering a few boats: 24' Thunder Jet Alexis w/ a 300hp Yamaha a Hewescraft Ocean Pro 240 w/ a 250hp Mercury and a North River Seahawk. I have a 3/4 sport top and will be doing a full hard top on this boat. I am not sure If I will go with the complete inclosure as I like using my boats in the summer and don't want to have to cram everyone in

Honestly, wasn't the most impressed with the North River, the finishings are excellent but I have heard mixed reviews about going offshore with it. I have heard it is more a river boat than an ocean boat with its front being the way it is. It sides were also lower (floor is raised). I liked the high 40'' sides in the Thunder Jet, it had a lot of deck space and the price was much less than a NR, however I have heard that they can be a rough ride as well. To be fair though, that came from most forums where people had 21' Luxors. I like the Hewescraft, however I don't necessarily want to be locked in with the Alaskan Bulkhead. I like the idea of the foam as well as well as the front end as far as going out into the ocean. Looking for any help. I am selling my boat and am looking at purchasing within a couple weeks.

If Im going to spend a lot of money, I want it to last and be the best/safest it can possibly be. Budget is under 100K.

Do North Rivers really live up to the hype?

Should I be considering Raider Boats?

Thanks in advance.
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I’d hit up the WA BD forum and ifish for more local input. The order you types those three are in the reverse order of quality. That is NR being the best of the 3. They’ll all get it done, but the NR will feel more comfortable and well outlast the other two. Both are notably cheaper too. I doubt you’ll find a 24’ Seahawk for $100k. My buddy has a 26’ duckworth with twin F200s and full Raymarine setup for sale for $125k or so. (For comparison).

I’d get a used NR or Duckworth before a new Hewescraft.
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As a Fresh Water Hewescraft Owner, I love their build quality, Welds are Silk Smooth Beads.

That being said, If I had the Cash, I would definitely had spent a Bit more on a Silver Streak. There was one on our Lake (way to big for my needs) and the Build quality was incredible! The CDN$$$ Exchange Rate might help even the price gap for you.

https://www.silverstreakboats.com/bo...at-cabin-boat/

Or a Stanley, but shipping might be costly.

https://stanleyboats.ca/cruiser/

I don't have much experience with NR, T Jet, but both seem to be more Assembly Line products than Hand Built. And seeing Lund's quality after Brunswick purchased it from Genmar, I question if Quality get over looked with the Big Box Boat Builders.

Hewescraft, seemed to be part way between "Production Boats and Hand Built" Much like Kingfisher.


Brother Dealership to the one I bought from has a 2015 Alaskan/HT/BH 150's for $74900. Fresh Water Use.

https://www.badiukequipment.com/inve...6649-10347373i

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Your list order should go with the NR, Hewes and then TJ. The NR will cost more up front but you will make up for it when you go to sale it. You can find any of these for well under your 100k budget.
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Here you go, a bit bigger NR but within your budget, no affiliation

https://anchorage.craigslist.org/bod...029277553.html

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If you're planning to get-into a lot more offshore fishing, you need to make sure you're comparing apples to apples. Here are some things to watch.
  • Gauge of the aluminum plate used for the hull and super structure.
  • Deadrise
  • Beam width at the chine vs beam at the gunnel
  • Is the bracket an extension of the hull, or cantilever style?
  • Room on the bracket for a kicker?
  • Is the deck truly self-bailing?
  • Is the deck welded into place, or is it just diamond plate over plywood, screwed to the deck structure?
  • Fuel capacity
  • Fish storage
From the research my friends have done (some of the same friends as wdlfbio above) my money would go to North River or Duckworth pilot-house style boats. In-addition to the the 26 Duck with twins wdlfbio mentioned for sale, I'm aware of another with a single 300 Yamaha and a 9.9 that may soon be on the market.
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Originally Posted by The Peddler View Post
If you're planning to get-into a lot more offshore fishing, you need to make sure you're comparing apples to apples. Here are some things to watch.
  • Gauge of the aluminum plate used for the hull and super structure.
  • Deadrise
  • Beam width at the chine vs beam at the gunnel
  • Is the bracket an extension of the hull, or cantilever style?
  • Room on the bracket for a kicker?
  • Is the deck truly self-bailing?
  • Is the deck welded into place, or is it just diamond plate over plywood, screwed to the deck structure?
  • Fuel capacity
  • Fish storage
From the research my friends have done (some of the same friends as wdlfbio above) my money would go to North River or Duckworth pilot-house style boats. In-addition to the the 26 Duck with twins wdlfbio mentioned for sale, I'm aware of another with a single 300 Yamaha and a 9.9 that may soon be on the market.
these are all really good points you will need to consider. If you are hung up on an aluminum boat there are many other manufacturers to choose from.

The lack of weight makes for better fuel efficiency but a much tougher day getting beat up in the chop.
Here are few others I would suggest having a look at.

Eagle
Diagle (built in Campbell river BC)
Jaxon craft (built in chemanius BC I think)
Silver Streak (built in Sooke BC)
Northwest (built in Langford BC)
kingfisher ( Built in Bernon BC)
Lifetimer (Built in Duncan BC)

IMO I would strongly suggest staying as far away from Thunderjet as possible. I owned one for just over a year and was the worst boat I have ever owned, factory QC issues galore and they would not stand behind their product.

if you are not wanting a fully enclosed cabin then I would strongly suggest looking at some used GW 282 Sailfish, or BW 285 conquest.

I fish off the west side of Vancouver island and those two particular boats do very well. I own a BW Conquest myself and to be honest the only thing I wish it had was a fully enclosed cabin as I do fish year round. Absolutely love the boat otherwise.

Good luck!

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i would avoid any boat with less than a 1/4" bottom. for the best welds theres daigle. (Daigle Welding & Marine / EagleCraft Boats). They school everyone on welding.
look at riptide marine in Parksville BC. They current have a brand new 2019 1/4" hull 26 footer for $60K CDN with rigging for $25K. pilothouse hard top.
They mainly fabricate heavy trailers so their welding is top notch.
Also look at lifeprooboats in WA -- although they are likely out of your price range.



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Originally Posted by yhsesq View Post
i would avoid any boat with less than a 1/4" bottom. for the best welds theres daigle. (Daigle Welding & Marine / EagleCraft Boats). They school everyone on welding.
look at riptide marine in Parksville BC. They current have a brand new 2019 1/4" hull 26 footer for $60K CDN with rigging for $25K. pilothouse hard top.
They mainly fabricate heavy trailers so their welding is top notch.
Also look at lifeprooboats in WA -- although they are likely out of your price range.
is RipTide across the street from PNT?
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Originally Posted by The Peddler View Post
If you're planning to get-into a lot more offshore fishing, you need to make sure you're comparing apples to apples. Here are some things to watch.
  • Gauge of the aluminum plate used for the hull and super structure.
  • Deadrise
  • Beam width at the chine vs beam at the gunnel
  • Is the bracket an extension of the hull, or cantilever style?
  • Room on the bracket for a kicker?
  • Is the deck truly self-bailing?
  • Is the deck welded into place, or is it just diamond plate over plywood, screwed to the deck structure?
  • Fuel capacity
  • Fish storage
From the research my friends have done (some of the same friends as wdlfbio above) my money would go to North River or Duckworth pilot-house style boats. In-addition to the the 26 Duck with twins wdlfbio mentioned for sale, I'm aware of another with a single 300 Yamaha and a 9.9 that may soon be on the market.
I am definitely interested in that boat with the single 300hp, I personally prefer the idea of larger singles.
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Originally Posted by BigFishHunter7 View Post
I am definitely interested in that boat with the single 300hp, I personally prefer the idea of larger singles.
Its my uncle. Hes been kicking around the idea of selling and moving-up. I think hed be a little above your original budget by 10-15k, but for a quick and easy sale, he may be negotiable.
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Originally Posted by The Peddler View Post
Its my uncle. Hes been kicking around the idea of selling and moving-up. I think hed be a little above your original budget by 10-15k, but for a quick and easy sale, he may be negotiable.

is it even broken in? He spends too much time up north to get to use it here.


OP, have you thought about a Grady White 232? Very big 23 and will eat up any of the 24ers youre thinking about.
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Originally Posted by wdlfbio View Post
is it even broken in? He spends too much time up north to get to use it here.


OP, have you thought about a Grady White 232? Very big 23 and will eat up any of the 24ers youre thinking about.


It has been some time since I looked at fiberglass boats, new GW and BW would probably be out of range for the size im looking. So probably a newer used boat or one that was taken care of. That market is pretty small here, so would probably ship one in right? What kind of price do you think a nice used GW or GW would cost? Assuming you guys have more knowledge about them then me!

One thing I want to consider is trailering and taking It places. I live about 2 hours from the coast and 15 minutes from my boat dock. Guess I could keep my pontoon boat for partying instead of taking It on the Columbia.

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Originally Posted by wdlfbio View Post
is it even broken in? He spends too much time up north to get to use it here.
Hes got a couple-hundred hours on her, I think. His rotations this year cause him to miss the tuna season this year. I think he made one halibut day, and a few salmon days.

Hes going bigger, and fglass for the next one, and his retirement craft.
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Originally Posted by Bigcoast View Post
is RipTide across the street from PNT?
across the street from express custom trailers. also owned by the same company.
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I wouldn't limit your search to aluminum hulls just to avoid shipping. The kind of money your spending the shipping is a drop in the bucket, there are a lot of fiberglass boats that will suit your needs perfectly.
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You can find lots of used 232s under $60k.

My best suggestion is to post on BD-Washington about your ideas. Ask about hitching a ride with folks in each boat you’re considering. Ask the owners about their likes/dislikes. I can guarantee that you’ll find someone for each model that will give you a ride. Lots of folks up here have had east coast and southern boats brought up. The two in my signature did. Having them trailered here was in the $3,000 - $4,200 range.
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Originally Posted by wdlfbio View Post
You can find lots of used 232s under $60k.

My best suggestion is to post on BD-Washington about your ideas. Ask about hitching a ride with folks in each boat youre considering. Ask the owners about their likes/dislikes. I can guarantee that youll find someone for each model that will give you a ride. Lots of folks up here have had east coast and southern boats brought up. The two in my signature did. Having them trailered here was in the $3,000 - $4,200 range.

Everyone of you have been very helpful and definitely have me researching and looking at fiberglass boats around the country. I think I will keep duckworth, weldcraft, NR in the mix until I decide on glass or aluminum. Definitely will not be buying as early as I thought. No use rushing the process. Im definitely liking the looks and idea behind a fiberglass boat.

Thanks!
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Originally Posted by Bigcoast View Post
these are all really good points you will need to consider. If you are hung up on an aluminum boat there are many other manufacturers to choose from.

The lack of weight makes for better fuel efficiency but a much tougher day getting beat up in the chop.
Here are few others I would suggest having a look at.

Eagle
Diagle (built in Campbell river BC)
Jaxon craft (built in chemanius BC I think)
Silver Streak (built in Sooke BC)
Northwest (built in Langford BC)
kingfisher ( Built in Bernon BC)
Lifetimer (Built in Duncan BC)

IMO I would strongly suggest staying as far away from Thunderjet as possible. I owned one for just over a year and was the worst boat I have ever owned, factory QC issues galore and they would not stand behind their product.

if you are not wanting a fully enclosed cabin then I would strongly suggest looking at some used GW 282 Sailfish, or BW 285 conquest.

I fish off the west side of Vancouver island and those two particular boats do very well. I own a BW Conquest myself and to be honest the only thing I wish it had was a fully enclosed cabin as I do fish year round. Absolutely love the boat otherwise.

Good luck!
I really like the Jaxon Craft Hardtop, I will be calling to get some more details tomorrow. Also looking into some BWs and GWs. Found a 2008 25 Conquest i like that I like 86 hours on twin 150s. $62k. Looking at bigger ones as well while considering storage and trailering.
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Originally Posted by BigFishHunter7 View Post
Everyone of you have been very helpful and definitely have me researching and looking at fiberglass boats around the country. I think I will keep duckworth, weldcraft, NR in the mix until I decide on glass or aluminum. Definitely will not be buying as early as I thought. No use rushing the process. Im definitely liking the looks and idea behind a fiberglass boat.

Thanks!
the reason we dont use them here is due to the headaches or hitting logs or rocks. fiberglass cracks easily and a hole in a f/g hull is just a dent in aluminum. maint is also much easier on AL - just put 4 coats of interprotect 2000e on it once and your hull is good to go. no polishing, buffing or maint required. holes can simply be welded. stuff can be welded on. its much easier than wondering if your plastic patch will hold on to your plastic boat.
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