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Old 11-18-2019, 04:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Tunalover View Post
I have installed and utilize dual range radar, FLIR (640X512 with stabilization and low light camera) and a Rigid Light Bar. If you run at night often, I would recommend all three technologies with their relative importance in the following order:
1. Dual range radar
2. FLIR (except in fog)
3. Light bar - use mainly offshore to see lobster pots. In very humid air (summer), not as effective.
How did you find flir in rain, I find it useless, and in fog useless , and even with the slightest mist useless , radar is the go to. Ive asked almost everyone who has one in my neck of the woods seems everyone has same problems , or worse if you have the older models
Old 11-18-2019, 04:51 AM
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Originally Posted by delliott00 View Post
They just started shipping in August and thats when I got mine. So far its been flawless. Batteries last a long time (couple hours). We use it in the caribbean to spot dinghys and mooring balls etc. I also live next to a marina that is not permitted to have lights on at night due to turtle habitat issues. So unless someone trips the motion lights, it is completely dark. With no moonlight, I can see every piling with the camera. Without it all I see is black.

It works great and the mobile app seems to work well for capturing photos and videos.
For $400 it is a no brainer IMHO.

I am tempted to rig up a mount for it to attach to my acr spotlight. You can move it remotely without having the light on.

Also unlike some night vision cams it can see through glass and vinyl too.

The company makes another one for $800 that is huge with combat sports (paintball) and hunting people. There is a huge community group on FB that loves them.

No affiliation just really happy I did not have to pay FLIR prices ;-)
Do you have it hooked up to your phone or an iPad via a WiFi connection? Would be interesting to mount on the hard top somehow with a Seasucker and have it hooked up to an iPad on the dash.
I have Radar and FLIR but we have knuckleheads with jon boats in the ditch with no lights on that scare the bejesus out of me even running at 8 knots you don't see them until you have almost hit them.
Old 11-18-2019, 04:53 AM
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Big fan of light bars
Old 11-18-2019, 04:55 AM
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Originally Posted by cuhuba View Post


done deal. Buying it with the intent of using a temporary mount and viewing with an iPad from the helm. I only need it for the 5 minutes of pitch dark channel markers. If it sucks, at least my kid can use it for airsoft
Post up , likke to see how you like it , maybe Ill grab one cant go wrong for 300
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Thanks THT for costing me more $$. Don’t see myself not having one of those come next Spring.....
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I have a Searay 37 express with a hardtop mounted M232 FLIR and a Raymarine AXIOM MFD. The great thing about these two pieces of equipment is “CLEAR CRUISE” which shows objects both stationary and moving on the screen with brackets around each. You can only get this if you have a Raymarine MFD. Also FLIR has the SCANNING option so as I go down the waterway my MFD screen shows what’s in front from side to side. The camera pans continuously. If you touch the screen the panning stops and there is
no glare from searchlights. Just the objects in front
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Originally Posted by Holdingforgold View Post
Big fan of light bars
I bet all the people in the condos at the end of that canal are NOT fans of your light bar.
If you would turn off all of those goofy blue lights you would have no problems getting through there.
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Old 11-18-2019, 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Chillinthemost View Post
I bet all the people in the condos at the end of that canal are NOT fans of your light bar.
If you would turn off all of those goofy blue lights you would have no problems getting through there.
Beat me to it. Disco lights are not for use when underway. Even idling up to the dock. Minimal required lights on when underway to reduce negative effect on night vision.
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Why are these threads always pushing a binary solution when there’s a place for all methods and tools in the right situation?
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Originally Posted by JohnM37 View Post

Beat me to it. Disco lights are not for use when underway. Even idling up to the dock. Minimal required lights on when underway to reduce negative effect on night vision.
Ditto. This is a perfect example of when lights are NOT required. Coming into a marina there is plenty of ambient light to see what you are doing, unless you have your interior lights blazing and killing your night vision like that guy does in his picture. Maybe boats and other things look bigger than they are when bathed in bright blue light?
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Originally Posted by aftergolf View Post
Do you have it hooked up to your phone or an iPad via a WiFi connection? Would be interesting to mount on the hard top somehow with a Seasucker and have it hooked up to an iPad on the dash.
I have Radar and FLIR but we have knuckleheads with jon boats in the ditch with no lights on that scare the bejesus out of me even running at 8 knots you don't see them until you have almost hit them.
That is exactly why I need one. In the caribbean you always get idiots on a dinghy coming back from a bar with no lights or sense..... Or someone who pays out 50 feet of line for their dinghy to swing off the back of their sailboat. Geesh!

Yes, it wifi's to my android tablet and I see the image there. It works well. There is maybe a 1/2 second delay. I am eventually going to glue a camera mount on my spotlight. The remote spotlight can move the housing around up/down left/right without the light bulb on, so if I mount it there and move it while casting to my tablet, it will work similar to a FLIR. I can point it wherever I want and see the image on the screen.

A lot of paintball users also get a small IR spotlight and attach it to the Sionyx. That won't illuminate anything for us and ruin your night vision, but it makes anything on the sionyx show up bright as day. Might be better than a light bar for other boaters, IMHO. Unlesss they also have a sionyx LOL....

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Beat me to it. Disco lights are not for use when underway. Even idling up to the dock. Minimal required lights on when underway to reduce negative effect on night vision.
I actually agree about the blue lights. I do not like them at all while driving they make it 10x harder to see. My buddy flipped them on for a short video and I took screenshots of it just to share how big of a difference the light bar can make. Sure it lights up the neighbors houses for maybe a minute or two but they all understand why.
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I have a Pursuit 315 and put a small mount made of starboard on the top of my bow rail (above the pulpit) that I can slide a removable, remote controlled spotlight on when navigating canals at night. Zero glare issues and when I’m done using it, just remove it and stow away. The starboard is very low profile and essentially negligible. I can send pics if interested.
Old 11-24-2019, 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Holdingforgold View Post

I actually agree about the blue lights. I do not like them at all while driving they make it 10x harder to see. My buddy flipped them on for a short video and I took screenshots of it just to share how big of a difference the light bar can make. Sure it lights up the neighbors houses for maybe a minute or two but they all understand why.
you dont need the light bar, at least for that, i would be embarrassed if i was on your boat and i'd be pissed if i was a fellow boater or condo owner that had to see your light
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Originally Posted by delliott00 View Post
I have the Sionyx Aurora Sport ($399) and use it for coming into unfamiliar waters at night. It is amazing. I have pulled into a pitch black anchorage and you can see every mooring ball, rock, piling, etc just as if it were daytime.

Only problem is that its not remote controllable like the FLIR. But my wife is good at heading out on the bow and using it to direct me, and I mirror the image back to my tablet at the helm. I am very impressed with it so far....

This is not my video but I can attest it is accurate:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbbsoVX5KWE
i am curious, has anyone tried something like an AXIS P1375 or dahua starlight + ? much less expensive than FLIR. i wish i had axiom though for the tech that would circle objects FLIR sees, that would be a major benefit.
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Originally Posted by mystery View Post
i am curious, has anyone tried something like an AXIS P1375 or dahua starlight + ? much less expensive than FLIR. i wish i had axiom though for the tech that would circle objects FLIR sees, that would be a major benefit.
bump on this question!
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Originally Posted by wdlfbio View Post
FLIR.

I don’t think you’d bother with the light bar or remote spotlight once you run a FLIR.

I had the M232 (pan/tilt, but only 320x240). I’d go with a fixed camera pointed straight ahead and a higher resolution rather than lower resolution with the pan/tilt. The field of view is plenty wide to show close things in front of you.
Don't bright lights on other boats white out your flir?​​​​​​
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I have FLIR and don't find it useful over 10 knots in the pitch black with no other lights, trying to avoid crab pots in the middle of the ditch.

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