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Thank you for sharing and glad there were no injuries!
I'm with you and will be changing my habits when at ramps from this day forward. |
I usually just leave mine in park, not a step or wet ramp though. I will start using the parking brake
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Originally Posted by rdmallory
(Post 13099049)
E-brakes are not designed to work in reverse.
They use forward rotation to work. Doug |
Going to now add wheel chocks & turning the front wheels to my launch & retrieval routine. Thanx OP.
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I must be missing something. I rented a 2019 Ford pickup truck today to launch my boat (twice a year event). After I backed the trailer down the ramp and stopped, I could find no parking brake actuator. Guess I should have read the manual first. So I had to just leave it in park and worry about it. But now I seem to read about those trucks having an electronic parking brake. How does that work? Did I not find the button or is it automatically applied? I want to rent again when needed.
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Originally Posted by SWF Pontoon Angler
(Post 13099345)
There are videos on youtube of pulling a stock car on trailer with the Touareg doing 75 and 80 mph. It's one of the best mid sized SUV's for towing and has factory hitch along with 4WD or really all wheel drive but still gets 20 or more mpg. It weighs around 5000 pounds. My Explorer got 13 pulling my 3500 pound boat.
Things get more interesting if you have to swerve or stop suddenly. |
Originally Posted by tango2echo
(Post 13101723)
Only true of drum brake E-brakes. Many of the disc style E-brakes now use the rear brake caliper and a valve that maintains pressure on the piston when activated.
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Originally Posted by ssobol2533@aol.com
(Post 13101815)
Lots of things can tow stuff fast on a flat road. A stock car only weighs around 3500# (plus the trailer weight). My minivan could do it.
Things get more interesting if you have to swerve or stop suddenly. |
Originally Posted by GaryDoug
(Post 13101755)
I must be missing something. I rented a 2019 Ford pickup truck today to launch my boat (twice a year event). After I backed the trailer down the ramp and stopped, I could find no parking brake actuator. Guess I should have read the manual first. So I had to just leave it in park and worry about it. But now I seem to read about those trucks having an electronic parking brake. How does that work? Did I not find the button or is it automatically applied? I want to rent again when needed.
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Originally Posted by 47Fountain
(Post 13101751)
Going to now add wheel chocks & turning the front wheels to my launch & retrieval routine. Thanx OP.
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Originally Posted by Team Seaside
(Post 13101531)
I usually just leave mine in park, not a step or wet ramp though. I will start using the parking brake
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Congrats on the new VW. What you did at the ramp is pretty much exactly what 95% of us do. Whatever failed on your old car, well...good riddance.
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Originally Posted by Jim311
(Post 13100567)
Yeah any number of things could short out and catch fire if they're filled with conductive saltwater.
Got a F250 wet from a flood of saltwater. Got the truck all washed off and it caught fire 2 days later. Tow truck driver said it was common. I have launched over 100 times a year for over 20 years. Always with 150 or a 250. Parking brake and in park. I back down put my foot on the brake and put the truck in park. Let my foot off brake to let the park feature fully engage as the truck will usually roll back slightly to get into park. Then I apply the emergency/parking Brake. Never had a issue nor have millions of others. Something broke for the op and I don't believe that without both the brake and the Tranny in Park many vehicles will hold reliably. Fairly sure the OP has launched with that boat and vehicle plenty of times without issue. The only time I have used a chock was for a ford ranger. It was more to prevent sliding than rolling on slippery ramps. |
I think if I had a truck with a manual transmission I'd consider using a chock. Otherwise I'm in the Park/Parking Brake camp. Been doing it for years without issue.
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Here's my chock set up:
tie a line between the chocks long enough to reach from one rear truck tire, over the trailer tongue, and down to the other chock at the other tire. when you pull up the ramp, the line will catch the trailer winch stand and drag the chocks up the ramp under the trailer and out of the way. I hope this helps. |
Originally Posted by captainrich
(Post 13102211)
Here's my chock set up:
tie a line between the chocks long enough to reach from one rear truck tire, over the trailer tongue, and down to the other chock at the other tire. when you pull up the ramp, the line will catch the trailer winch stand and drag the chocks up the ramp under the trailer and out of the way. I hope this helps. That right there is the best idea |
Originally Posted by acme54321
(Post 13102210)
I think if I had a truck with a manual transmission I'd consider using a chock. Otherwise I'm in the Park/Parking Brake camp. Been doing it for years without issue.
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Originally Posted by Rollo Tomassi
(Post 13102122)
Congrats on the new VW. What you did at the ramp is pretty much exactly what 95% of us do. Whatever failed on your old car, well...good riddance.
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Originally Posted by tango2echo
(Post 13101723)
Only true of drum brake E-brakes. Many of the disc style E-brakes now use the rear brake caliper and a valve that maintains pressure on the piston when activated.
One shoe is longer and the lever is camed forward. "The brake shoes pivot at opposite points to each other.[4] This gives the maximum possible braking when moving forwards, but is not so effective when the vehicle is traveling in reverse.[4]" https://www.freeasestudyguides.com/d...ing-brake.html |
Originally Posted by rdmallory
(Post 13103212)
I agree, My F250 has disk but the Parking/E Brake is still a drum inside the rear disk.
One shoe is longer and the lever is camed forward. "The brake shoes pivot at opposite points to each other.[4] This gives the maximum possible braking when moving forwards, but is not so effective when the vehicle is traveling in reverse.[4]" https://www.freeasestudyguides.com/d...ing-brake.html |
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