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Old 11-12-2019, 07:13 AM
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E brake/ Once in park and foot off brake and make sure itís holding I switch it into 4hi
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Old 11-12-2019, 07:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Lone Ranger View Post
Older Fords never had a good Park detent for the Shifter.Many years ago they had a Recall on some for slipping out of Park. Parking Brakes don't hold as well backwards either.Especially if it's the Drum in Hat Rotors. Park Brake Shoes are small as crap! Sorry for Your loss..
Thanks, by the way the gear shifter was just flopping after they towed the car in. You could flop it back and forth from park to low without pushing in the button.
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Old 11-12-2019, 07:16 AM
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Originally Posted by LSCboater View Post
Use a wheel chock on the driver front wheel and add a rope to it. You can pull it up and out of the way once you get the vehicle going.

In your Touareg is it the switch that says "on road" and "off road" (no 4HI?).
The car is being delivered Thursday but yes, I think it has the switch you are talking about. It's the Executive model.
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Old 11-12-2019, 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Codycat View Post
Was there any determination as to what caused the fire?

I haven't been using e brake or chocks. Just put it in park. Guess I have been really lucky........I think I will start with chocks
The guy said I was lucky the car started on fire after getting wet. He said it was probably and accident waiting to happen with bare wires somewhere under the dash where it started and could have started while on the road.
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Old 11-12-2019, 07:20 AM
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My e brake doesn’t know the difference between forward and backwards. Holds the truck in place on an incline with the boat attached.
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Old 11-12-2019, 07:25 AM
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Originally Posted by acme54321 View Post
Say what?
Press the parking brake and back up....
Now try try driving forward.

The brake shoes work like a cam and the forward rotation helps apply them.
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Old 11-12-2019, 07:27 AM
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Originally Posted by BACKTOTHESEA View Post
My e brake doesnít know the difference between forward and backwards. Holds the truck in place on an incline with the boat attached.
Some of the newer cars don't use the drum barking brake. A number of vehicles even with disc brake still use a drum parking brake that works like a cam.

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Old 11-12-2019, 07:31 AM
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Someone had posted awhile back on this topic (I think it was here on THT) that they have a chock for each front tire on a line with a loop that they throw over each side mirror. As they drive forward up the ramp, the chock is dragged along until finding a place to stop. I think that would work well.
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Old 11-12-2019, 07:37 AM
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Everyone out, windows down, wheel chock. Also donít tow with cars.
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Old 11-12-2019, 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by SWF Pontoon Angler View Post
How can you put a 4x4 behind rear tire when it's down maybe almost or even in the water?
My first vehicle, when I was in high school, was a F-250 manual. I had a 6x6 that I cut with a 45 in one end. One the other end I had a big eye bolt. I had a rope on the eye bolt and would stick it under a tire SOMEWHERE when I would launch/retrieve. I would then tie the rope to some part of the truck so that when I took off it would drag up the ramp and not get hung up somewhere. Most of the time I was able to do this on the back tire, not the front, and just tie it to the bumper. There was always that moment of limbo when you were by yourself and you'd lock up the parking brake and hold your breath to make sure it was holding. Saved me many a day!
Now that I have an automatic I guess I've put trust in the "P" and parking brake. Locking it into 4x4 I've done now on steep ramps and after reading this I'll have to make sure to do that more frequently.
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Old 11-12-2019, 07:42 AM
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I was told that if you saw how small the Park detent is in the transmission, you would never leave it just in Park on any kind of slope
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Old 11-12-2019, 07:45 AM
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I can't tell - what kind of vehicle was it that sunk? Sorry for your loss but you seems to have the right mindset.
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Old 11-12-2019, 07:56 AM
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Looks like an Explorer, unfortunately you have to keep your parking brake inspected and serviced I guess, we all take it for granted. Not OPs fault as it could happen to anyone. The Touareg canít really tow 7,800 pounds Iíd guess, sounds like a marketing grab like the unachievable half ton max ratings. Thatís Expedition and Suburban territory. Ford tried rating the Explorer there too, was never up to the task. The full sizes have a lot more wheelbase, engine, and payload than these to tow that weight safer. Although the Touareg diesel has a lot of torque, a lot more promising than the gas V6. Looks like a nice car inside.
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Old 11-12-2019, 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by rdmallory View Post
Press the parking brake and back up....
Now try try driving forward.

The brake shoes work like a cam and the forward rotation helps apply them.
Problem though with this is sometimes the parking brake gets stuck and you can't release it.
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Old 11-12-2019, 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by JExpedition07 View Post
Looks like an Explorer, unfortunately you have to keep your parking brake inspected and serviced I guess, we all take it for granted. Not OPs fault as it could happen to anyone. The Touareg can’t really tow 7,800 pounds I’d guess, sounds like a marketing grab like the unachievable half ton max ratings. That’s Expedition and Suburban territory. Ford tried rating the Explorer there too, was never up to the task. The full sizes have a lot more wheelbase, engine, and payload than these to tow that weight safer. Although the Touareg diesel has a lot of torque, a lot more promising than the gas V6. Looks like a nice car inside.
There are videos on youtube of pulling a stock car on trailer with the Touareg doing 75 and 80 mph. It's one of the best mid sized SUV's for towing and has factory hitch along with 4WD or really all wheel drive but still gets 20 or more mpg. It weighs around 5000 pounds. My Explorer got 13 pulling my 3500 pound boat.

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Old 11-12-2019, 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by CruiseToFish View Post
I always roll the windows down. In case one of the kids is in for whatever reason so they can swim out if it ever happened. I always make them get out and wait on the dock/beach, but just in case. If the ramp is steep I also put it in 4HI so park in the trans is connected to the front diff.
I know a guy who almost drowned this way. Someone swam down and smashed the window and pulled him out. Always roll your windows down on a ramp...
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Old 11-12-2019, 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted by SWF Pontoon Angler View Post
Problem though with this is sometimes the parking brake gets stuck and you can't release it.
Push on the pedal while pulling the release - it'll release easily.
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I always back in fairly close to the dock and religiously cut the wheels hard over in the event the e-brake on my truck ever fails. I carry a chock but only use it when the ramp is slick. Disclaimer: I also have a roller trailer so my truck wheels are seldom within 5 or 6 feet of the water.
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Old 11-12-2019, 08:32 AM
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You just lost a vehicle because the parking break failed and you're concerned about using a chock because someone might judge you for it..........i guess you enjoy testing out your vehicles floatation
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Old 11-12-2019, 08:33 AM
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It’s not an E brake, it’s a parking brake. It works forward or reverse. Use it.

To efficiently use a chock under the front wheel, attach a cord to it and close you door on the cord so when you drive up the ramp, it just drags the chock along. Just be sure there is not enough cord for the chock to reach the real wheel.
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