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Old 11-05-2019, 07:20 AM
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Any thoughts on this outboard? Pros/cons? About ready to lay down the $1630 for a brand new 2020 model to use as a kicker on 20 foot center console for peace of mind. Something to get us back to the marina on 30,000 acre lake.
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I have an older version of this motor and it's been GREAT. Lots of other folks I've talked to have the same motor and like it too. It's the same motor as the Merc 6HP, and the 4, 5 and 6 HP Tohatsu's and Mercs are the same (was were the Nissans when they sold them). The only difference between the 4, 5 and 6 is the carb.

What makes it a "SailPro" is just the long length shaft, the high thrust "mouse ears" prop and a charging circuit. Otherwise it's identical to the others.

The high thrust prop is cool and like adding traction control to these motors. It allows the motor to get up into the RPM range where it really makes the HP rating, and can push a lot of water either in fwd or rev.

The only real caution - like any other small motor - is to keep the carb CLEAN. That means always using a good filter and always draw from a clean tank. Don't let old gas sit in the carb, especially ethanol-gas. If you're not expecting to use it for a bit, run it dry or drain the float bowl (there's an easy screw to open at the bottom of the bowl to drain it).
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Originally Posted by km1125 View Post
I have an older version of this motor and it's been GREAT. Lots of other folks I've talked to have the same motor and like it too. It's the same motor as the Merc 6HP, and the 4, 5 and 6 HP Tohatsu's and Mercs are the same (was were the Nissans when they sold them). The only difference between the 4, 5 and 6 is the carb.

What makes it a "SailPro" is just the long length shaft, the high thrust "mouse ears" prop and a charging circuit. Otherwise it's identical to the others.

The high thrust prop is cool and like adding traction control to these motors. It allows the motor to get up into the RPM range where it really makes the HP rating, and can push a lot of water either in fwd or rev.

The only real caution - like any other small motor - is to keep the carb CLEAN. That means always using a good filter and always draw from a clean tank. Don't let old gas sit in the carb, especially ethanol-gas. If you're not expecting to use it for a bit, run it dry or drain the float bowl (there's an easy screw to open at the bottom of the bowl to drain it).
thanks for the info!
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also you can hook these up to remote throttle and shift.
https://www.sailnet.com/forums/outbo...hatsu-6hp.html
and put an EZsteer rod between your main motor and it.
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They're the "Bayliner" of kicker motors, but like Bayliner, the folks who own them seem to like them. I think there's a lot of value there, and would be comfortable running one.
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Originally Posted by The Peddler View Post
They're the "Bayliner" of kicker motors, but like Bayliner, the folks who own them seem to like them. I think there's a lot of value there, and would be comfortable running one.
I’d never even heard of Tohatsu until I started looking for a kicker. Seems like most like them. Was considering a Suzuki but like the 25” shaft, low oil indicator, and the F-N-R shifter being in the front on the Tohatsu. Better bang for my buck it seems.
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I certainly wouldn't imply they're a "Bayliner".

Tohatsu is (and has been for quite a while) the manufacturer of all the small motors for Mercury and Nissan and I believe some of the other brands as well.
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My buddy had a tohatsu.
Loved it till the L.U. grenaded itself without warning offshore, when he put it in gear, and started drifting toward cuba at 4mph in 800' water.

When motor just revved, he went back and looked down, hole in side of gearcase. He saw shift dog fall out and sink away in the clear blue water.
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Too late! Just bought a 2020 Tohatsu 6 hp sail pro! Price $1740 with tax, free shipping!
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Don't worry, just keep decent gear lube on the lower unit and don't let water sit in there or freeze (no different with any other outboard). I've run mine (which is ~25 years old) nearly flat out 14 miles before.

Just keep that carb clean!! That's 99% of the problems.

Oh, and another thing... DO NOT overfill the oil. If you do, you may "foam up" the oil from the crankshaft and it will actually cause LOW oil pressure. Anything above the bottom 'fill' line is fine. DO NOT try and "top it off" to the top line.
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Originally Posted by tmise View Post
Too late! Just bought a 2020 Tohatsu 6 hp sail pro! Price $1740 with tax, free shipping!
Before any storage, over 1 week, always run until it conks out. Drain fuel tank if storing over 5 months. If you use ethanol you wont have gum in carb. There are owner’s manual intructions for storage. Flush everything. Should last forever.. have had them for 20 yrs on ethanol. Do not fill up at waterside pumps. Use same pump as car. Good luck.

If wont start in winter, heat cylinder with hair dryer until warm to touch not hot. It will start in 1 or 2 pulls.

BTW ethanol is a carb cleaner.



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Tohatsu is Japanese for reliability, which I guess is one reason that Mercury and Evinrude buy them in and rebrand them - it's a long long way from being the Bayliner of outboards - never heard that analogy before You won't go wrong even with a bit of neglect!
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I have a 6hp Tohatsu for my air floor inflatable, and it’s been very reliable. No issues except a spun prop hub, and I load the little boat down and give that motor Hell! I do add a little Seafoam to the gas, not sure if that helps or not, but I haven’t had any engine issues.
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Originally Posted by km1125 View Post
Don't worry, just keep decent gear lube on the lower unit and don't let water sit in there or freeze (no different with any other outboard). I've run mine (which is ~25 years old) nearly flat out 14 miles before.

Just keep that carb clean!! That's 99% of the problems.

Oh, and another thing... DO NOT overfill the oil. If you do, you may "foam up" the oil from the crankshaft and it will actually cause LOW oil pressure. Anything above the bottom 'fill' line is fine. DO NOT try and "top it off" to the top line.
thanks I’ll remember that good advice!
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I love mine but they can be had in "Mint" condition for $600 ..
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Good decision. They are a simpler engine which will just start and run.
The special features of the sail drive are worth the $$$$$.
Those features are. difficult to find used.
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Originally Posted by Tommysmicroskiff View Post
I love mine but they can be had in "Mint" condition for $600 ..
The regular 6HP version, yes. However, the differences in the SailPro - the charging circuit, high-thrust prop, and extra long shaft (25"), make it much more rare to come across in the secondary market. You can convert a regular longshaft (20") to something like Sailpro with some labor and about $150 in parts though, if that length would work on your boat. I did that to my 15" 6HP one, for more thrust with a fully-loaded dingy (and to run lights and plotter). Finding a 25" shaft out there would be tough unless you really have the time to wait for one to pop up.
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I bought a 6-HP Mercury, new, back in the fall of 2011 and have been using it every summer to take us in our 14' Mirrocraft rowboat, back and forth to the beach at the top of our bay and it has been almost perfect.

What I had learned is what others have already mentioned in that Tohatsu makes the 4S motors for both Mercury and Evinrude and each of them changes the controls as they see fit but the powerhead and L/U are all Tohatsu.

Tohatsu did good by both including pinch clamps on the fuel filter-that is located right on the front of the motor (under the cowl of course)so, if there is any clog in the filter, it can be taken off ricky-tick and blown out or replaced. On the odd, rare occasions, if I get stall or two on the way out or back, I blow the filter out and all is well.

That Tohatsu also added a drain screw for the carb, right out in the open, to drain the carb anytime one wants, is a nice thought. I make sure the carb is drained after every use and the motor starts up on the first pull, every time.

Just finished season 8 with the motor and winterized it just yesterday. 15 oz of 10W-30, grease on the propshaft and new gearcase oil, fog the single cylinder and that is all folks.

I'm lucky as some guy who was working for West Marine, bought out all the 2010 motors in 2011 and sold me the 6-HP new for $900. It is amazing that the retail for some $1,500-1,600 for a 6-HP.
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I never drained the carb on my 3.5 hp and had nothing but problems. I bought it to use every day on my solo skiff. I just shoot around the river before dinner with a beer or two. If I let it sit for a week because of bad weather it wouldnt start. Expecting someone to drain the carb every day is insane. My 3.5 did not have a fuel filter nor an oil filter.
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I didn't mean anything derogatory by equating them to Bayliner. Both are the entry-price and value leader in their segments. Both use the same power head as higher-cost, higher tier, higher (perceived) reputation brands. They're not the sexiest thing on the water, but they'll get you out there (and back) just fine, when properly maintained.

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