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Old 10-27-2019, 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by gundog61 View Post

I seemed to have missed the awnser to this question.

Maybe being alone on your boat all the time makes you look suspicious.
like three times this year and I've only taken the boat out about 9 times.
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Old 10-27-2019, 01:58 PM
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From 19 United States Code Subchapter 1401
(i)Officer of the customs; customs officer
The terms “officer of the customs” and “customs officer” mean any officer of the United States Customs Service of the Treasury Department (also hereinafter referred to as the “Customs Service”) or any commissioned, warrant, or petty officer of the Coast Guard, or any agent or other person, including foreign law enforcement officers, authorized by law or designated by the Secretary of the Treasury to perform any duties of an officer of the Customs Service.

What does that mean? see the post above by Salbrent.

I have been boating since I was 8 or nine, Im now 74. Never been boarded. Checked at the ramp a couple of times by local water cops. Oh, and by the way, some suggested a sticker to put on your boat saying it's been checked. There already is one, it's called a Coast Guard Auxiliary courtesy Vessel Safety Check. Most Coast Guard and other LEOs honor it. USCGAUX: Vessel Safety Checks

IN the spirit of full disclosure, I am retired Coast Guard. been enlisted, officer, and a civilian Coast Guard employee.

Also those fines do not go to the Coast Guard. They go the Treasury and are put into the General Fund. The Coast Guard derives no support or benefit from fines. When you sign the check it is made out to the Treasurer Of The United States.

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Old 10-27-2019, 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by njk4o5 View Post
you still get pulled over though. once you tell them you already have the inspection sticker they let you go but when your out with a bunch of people its embarrassing and a pain in the a$$ getting pulled over for no reason
It's embarrassing for LE to stop you for a safety inspection? How is that embarrassing?
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Old 10-27-2019, 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by firstbase View Post
It's embarrassing for LE to stop you for a safety inspection? How is that embarrassing?

That's not what it looks like to a passenger that hasn't been on a boat before . They assume you did something wrong.
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Old 10-27-2019, 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by njk4o5 View Post
so is there anyone that actually enjoys getting boarded for a "safety inspection"??? Is there anyone on here that would vote to keep them as is?
Enjoy them? No, not especially. Don't hate them either. And yes I would vote to keep them as is or increase them. I'm in South Florida, Keys to Cape Canaveral. Need more particularly between Miami and fort Lauderdale.
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Old 10-27-2019, 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by fishmaster273 View Post
That's not what it looks like to a passenger that hasn't been on a boat before . They assume you did something wrong.
Seems like a simple "Relax folks, Coast Guard wants to do a Safety Inspection. Guess it's my turn." would ease their minds pretty quickly. And if they are truely that ignorant they think you are a superstar when you pass.
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Old 10-27-2019, 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by njk4o5 View Post
so is there anyone that actually enjoys getting boarded for a "safety inspection"??? Is there anyone on here that would vote to keep them as is?
I don’t mind them one bit, they are there for a reason. When shit hits the fan they’re the ones that step in and assist. CG is always the nicest individuals, they are down to earth and would rather see them more often around. They have a job to do, respect and courtesy goes a long way for certain. FWC officers can be hit or miss, some of the officers know I run by the book and always straight and narrow. Once in a while a transfer is there and wants to see it all, no problem here’s my fed permits/ state license.

I will say say there are a few state officers who check my safety gear every time I’m at the ramp with all of my paperwork, licenses, etc within a span of two days.
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Old 10-27-2019, 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by firstbase View Post
Seems like a simple "Relax folks, Coast Guard wants to do a Safety Inspection. Guess it's my turn." would ease their minds pretty quickly. And if they are truely that ignorant they think you are a superstar when you pass.
They're checking for warrants. If they would just doing a safety inspection there would be no need for them to request id.
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Old 10-27-2019, 07:39 PM
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It's a fun "academic" conversation for legal beagles, but you'd have about the same chance as getting x-ray machines out of airports.
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Old 10-27-2019, 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by fishmaster273 View Post
True but how many cops pull you over for not using a turn signal? They typically don't care.
I had marine police following me down a harbor I turned to starboard to enter slip area . Got pulled over for not giving a turn signal !!!!
told officer he was burdened vessel and had to yield to me .
Boy he didn't like that !
he started getting nasty so I asked to see what he was talking about in the rules of the road . He didn't have a copy . Asked if he had a masters or at least an oupv. Nope !
So I got our rules of the road book and told him to get his superior to straighten the mess out !
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Old 10-27-2019, 08:43 PM
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If no one will go out on your boat and you have a problems with being boarded maybe you need to look at your boat or in the mirror . Just a thought .
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Old 10-27-2019, 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by fishmaster273 View Post
They're checking for warrants. If they would just doing a safety inspection there would be no need for them to request id.
If they are checking for warrants (they aren't) they can go ahead and check away. They can check to see if I have illegal fish, unpaid child support, late home mortgage payments, outstanding community service hours, whatever they want because they won't find anything. If I am on the water without the necessary equipment and paperwork they check then I need to go home until I get it. If LE is checking you repeatedly and taking all of the time you claim then...I bet they know what they are doing.
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So let's get this straight. You are complaining about the military doing too many tasks at once, like safety, outstanding warrants, DUI, etc? Aren't you of the type that complains about government being wasteful and inefficient? I would actually feel a lot safer if they checked you every time.
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Old 10-27-2019, 10:41 PM
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Old 10-28-2019, 06:16 AM
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Nine times out of ten it's done for your own benefit and/or safety also for the safety of others.

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I’m calling my state rep today to have this put on their agenda. I’ve been boarded a couple times this year and the boardings were a slight inconvenience yet professional. Yes they are just doing their job and it might help a clueless numbskull every once in a blue moon but we follow the laws so there is absolutely no reason we should be getting boarded, ever. The coastguard is there to help when called upon and that is where their service should end. Our tax dollars pay for the service. The more I think about this concept the more I ask myself, am I free and is the government really for the people?
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I think we flatter ourselves by saying LE comes to the boat to "check out the babes". It is the number of people, the music, the party atmosphere and highly probable alcohol consumption that attracts attention. If you were LE who would you check for issues, 4 older people on the flybridge of a trawler or a 35' CC filled with people dancing?
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Old 10-28-2019, 07:03 AM
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Originally Posted by jgren View Post
I’m calling my state rep today to have this put on their agenda. I’ve been boarded a couple times this year and the boardings were a slight inconvenience yet professional. Yes they are just doing their job and it might help a clueless numbskull every once in a blue moon but we follow the laws so there is absolutely no reason we should be getting boarded, ever. The coastguard is there to help when called upon and that is where their service should end. Our tax dollars pay for the service. The more I think about this concept the more I ask myself, am I free and is the government really for the people?
Sorry but CG doesn't know if you are one of the numbskulls or not. It's not going to change nor should it. According to your theory, the highway cops should sit on the side of the road and wait to help you after an accident? Go ahead and call away but its a waste of time. I can't imagine the number of accidents, deaths, drug traffic, etc. that would occur down ihere in South Florida without the stops,
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Originally Posted by jgren View Post
I’m calling my state rep today to have this put on their agenda. I’ve been boarded a couple times this year and the boardings were a slight inconvenience yet professional. Yes they are just doing their job and it might help a clueless numbskull every once in a blue moon but we follow the laws so there is absolutely no reason we should be getting boarded, ever. The coastguard is there to help when called upon and that is where their service should end. Our tax dollars pay for the service. The more I think about this concept the more I ask myself, am I free and is the government really for the people?

This pretty much nails it.
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Originally Posted by firstbase View Post
Sorry but CG doesn't know if you are one of the numbskulls or not. It's not going to change nor should it. According to your theory, the highway cops should sit on the side of the road and wait to help you after an accident? Go ahead and call away but its a waste of time. I can't imagine the number of accidents, deaths, drug traffic, etc. that would occur down ihere in South Florida without the stops,
you missed the point, I was stopped and boarded without any reason other than to check safety gear. I was not speeding in a no wake zone, no open containers, vests on the children, current registration, no laws broken and still boarded. But you must think it’s okay to have your privacy invaded by government agencies. Sorry to hear that. And by your logic you think the state police should just pull over any car they see to search them without cause?
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