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Old 09-30-2019, 01:02 PM
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I am planning a trans-Atlantic crossing with my brother possibly summer 2021. North Atlantic. Also looking into the southern route but the leg from Bermuda to Azores is VERY long.

Inspiration came from the "I am Second". Robert and Ralph Brown. Crossed in a 21 foot flats boat. Similar to them we are going to try and raise money for a charity close to our hearts.

I'm trying to get info on the things to consider with this type of endeavor. I know about the fuel issue, water, food, mechanical problems, electronics issues, etc. All these things will be worked out in advance obviously. I have several lists of scenarios that could play out, spares needed, first aid, food, water, fuel...bladders needed and such

Do any of you have good ideas or advice on things that may not be so obvious? I will take any and all info/advice. Trying to get a punch list of things that I may not have thought of.

Crossing will be done in a 42 CC. 600 gallon fuel tank.
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Originally Posted by bpurdy0072 View Post
I am planning a trans-Atlantic crossing with my brother possibly summer 2021. North Atlantic. Also looking into the southern route but the leg from Bermuda to Azores is VERY long.

Inspiration came from the "I am Second". Robert and Ralph Brown. Crossed in a 21 foot flats boat. Similar to them we are going to try and raise money for a charity close to our hearts.

I'm trying to get info on the things to consider with this type of endeavor. I know about the fuel issue, water, food, mechanical problems, electronics issues, etc. All these things will be worked out in advance obviously. I have several lists of scenarios that could play out, spares needed, first aid, food, water, fuel...bladders needed and such

Do any of you have good ideas or advice on things that may not be so obvious? I will take any and all info/advice. Trying to get a punch list of things that I may not have thought of.

Crossing will be done in a 42 CC. 600 gallon fuel tank.
A BA Mothership to carry the food, fuel and crew you will need to complete the endeavor.

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Find a different way to raise money. This just sounds stupid.
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gas, gas and more gas......... then add 600 gallons of gas
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The cross the Atlantic in Leopard Cats that are in the 40' range often. The photos are insane. Literally fuel in every possible place.

I'm not sure I'd want to do it something as narrow as a CC... but I'm certain you could.
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I looked very hard at doing it in our 41 instead of shipping it over on freighters and if I ever build another for an across the pond client I absolutely will! Range is not a problem with bladders, just have to plan the weather VERY carefully and of course be prepared for mother nature to throw you a few surprises.
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I'd say practicing at crossing the Long Island Sound a couple thousand times would be good practice.
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Originally Posted by bills106 View Post
I looked very hard at doing it in our 41 instead of shipping it over on freighters and if I ever build another for an across the pond client I absolutely will! Range is not a problem with bladders, just have to plan the weather VERY carefully and of course be prepared for mother nature to throw you a few surprises.
well, if you dare to do this and:
1- don't do a thread on the build
2- don't put plenty of pics here
I will build a team of enforcers and chase you down with a case of the worst beer on the planet and force you to drink it all at once...

To the OP: sorry for the derail. This is a mighty challenge in a long range cruiser designed for this kind of crossings, in a center console, you might also take a 55 gallon drum of 50spf sun protection.
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Not at all a joke or troll.

Obviously the fuel issue is the biggest we face. Working on that. Certainly speed and GPH make are the first order of business. What is the sweet spot. 4, 350 verados. Run 2 at a time, 3,not too sure what makes the most sense. Going to be calculating range at the various speeds and number of engines over the next several months.

It may well be a stupid idea. Wouldn't be my first and I think with enough time and research, I can mitigate many possible complications that may arise. I know, Murphy's law.
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How much money are you trying to raise ?
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I know of guys that do it in a trawler, but you're talking 1,500 gallon diesel tanks, stabilizers, galley, head(s), berths, etc. What is your estimated fuel burn rate?
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With that threat combi 40, I guess I'll have to do a thread. Not that I wouldn't anyway!

To bpurdy, we put the 350 V-Rods on our 41 and I did lots of fuel calcs, we also have 600 built-in. Do some VERY accurate fuel burn runs in various sea conditions at eco-cruise speeds to see how your particular hull and it's drag affect burn. Another big concern is our master mechanic said you absolutely have to change both lower unit and engine oil every hundred hours of normal usage. Granted 1000 rpm runs won't stress the oil as bad but I'd enlist factory advice on that.
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With that threat combi 40, I guess I'll have to do a thread. Not that I wouldn't anyway!

To bpurdy, we put the 350 V-Rods on our 41 and I did lots of fuel calcs, we also have 600 built-in. Do some VERY accurate fuel burn runs in various sea conditions at eco-cruise speeds to see how your particular hull and it's drag affect burn. Another big concern is our master mechanic said you absolutely have to change both lower unit and engine oil every hundred hours of normal usage. Granted 1000 rpm runs won't stress the oil as bad but I'd enlist factory advice on that.
Thank you for the info!
At this point I am working on calculations of fuel burn, weights/displacement, trying to find the sweet spot for the most range in terms of speed. Yes, lots to consider.
As far as oil changes, we won't be going straight across from Boston. There will be many stops along the way. Going to find places where the boat can be hauled and change lower unit oil, engine oil etc. I will be doing the changes myself. Planning on bringing fuel/oil filter spares, oil, etc. Hoping to get a list of stops that have Mercury techs available, but not sure how easy that will be, if at all. Only reason we would need a certified tech is for some catastrophic failure.
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I think you should have a send off party before you embark on this journey, your boat must be in your pool for the party though.
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Originally Posted by bpurdy0072 View Post
As far as oil changes, we won't be going straight across from Boston. There will be many stops along the way. Going to find places where the boat can be hauled and change lower unit oil.
Stops??

Where?

You will have take a fairly northern route to be able to call at Nova Scotia, Newfoundland, Greenland, Iceland, Faroes, Shetlands. Weather in those waters is iffy, even in high summer.

South of that you have the Azores, and that's about it unless you arc further south to Africa.

Not trying to discourage you
It can be done, but not easily and not without significant risk.

Plan a highly detailed exit strategy.


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