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Old 09-02-2019, 01:09 PM
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My dock neighbor just put his boat up for sale and I've just began negotiations with his broker . Still have to survey and sea trial but I am looking for first hand experiences with this boat.
it's a 93'
Definitely has been maintained and is in almost perfect condition cosmeticlly. 1500 hours is what I'm told on Caterpillar 3208ta 375 hp
anything I should know about?
Besides that it's old which I more than used to and not scared by.
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Old 09-02-2019, 02:07 PM
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Survey will tell you a lot. Have the inspector look for water intrusion at the scuppers, a/c bilge shower drains at midship, and anchor locker drain . All three are typical to be wet after so many years. The thru hulls can be removed/replaced and the moisture treated and sealed off.

The biggest will be the helm floor. Raise that helm floor up and wait to see if it leaks water, raises evenly, or sags. That’s a bigger job to repair.

None of if what I mentioned are deal breakers unless they’re really terrible but you need to know ahead of time that you might be spending another chunk of change to get it right.

Tiara is a well built boat boat and all the systems you will need to service will be readily accessible. I loved my 35’ for years and would buy another if the conditions were right.
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Old 09-02-2019, 02:49 PM
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Tiara is certainly up there in the category of a quality design/build. The 3208 is an older design from the research I've read but much better than the 3126 platform by Cat. I love the helm design on the Tiaras and they have such nice appointments in the galley that they are hard to beat in many areas. The hull design is not as "deep vee" as a Bertram or Hatteras but Tiara can take on big water with the best of them. The one thing I do not like in the older Tiaras are the pop-up tables in the stern area. They look to be debris catchers and would probably need maintenance quite often. Not sure if the '93 had that feature.
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Old 09-02-2019, 03:04 PM
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Good luck, if you decide to buy it.
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Old 09-02-2019, 03:29 PM
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Thank you for the replies.
will definitely keep all those areas you mentioned in mind.

This boat does not have a pop up table in the aft i's just an open cockpit. I agree with the fit and finish of these boats that's hard to beat in the category that they are in. It was never one of my top choices as I 99 percent fish and 1 percent cruise but this thing is perfectly appointed to do both and I see more cruising in my future if I make it happen.
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Old 09-02-2019, 03:33 PM
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Had a 1990 with the 3208's for 5 years. Great boat. Handled and rode very well in all kinds of conditions. Most of the systems will be pretty old so ongoing maintenance by previous owners will be the biggest issue. Agree on the moisture issues mentioned above. The helm deck on mine was soft. I recored the engine room day hatch. The larger hatches would be a challenge. Also make sure the electric actuators are in good shape. The can be hard to replace. Also told by tira that the sliding companionway door would be difficult to replace so make sure that's in good shape.

If specific questions just ask.
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Old 09-02-2019, 03:45 PM
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I have zero experience with these boats, but I've always liked the Tiara's. I often visit youtube videos just to look at how well appointed they are for a boat that is mostly affordable. Good luck with the negotiations and I agree with the other post about having the boat surveyed by a qualified surveyor. Hoping it works out for you.
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Old 09-02-2019, 04:21 PM
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Find out who services his CATs and get their opinion on parts availability. I'm pretty sure CAT announced recently that some 3208 components will no longer be available from the factory.
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Old 09-02-2019, 04:29 PM
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I picked up an 88’ 36 Convertible this past spring. Mine has crusaders in it so I can’t really comment the motors. I sort of second what others have said, have it structurally surveyed and be ready to replace stuff. Sounds like the one that you are looking at is currently up and running, which is great, mine had been sitting in the back of a boat yard for “a few years” prior to purchase.

To put the replace stuff in perspective, I have had the running gear overhauled, pumped the fuel tank, replaced the fridge, replaced an AC, gone through all of the wear parts on the head, couple of pumps, replaced like a million feet of hose, bottom paint, replaced a bunch of interior soft goods and just frankly paid someone to detail the boat. I am starting to feel like I am getting over the hump.

I did not pay a lot for the boat and have been pretty aggressive with a just replace it mindset. I feel like my attitude has paid off, we literally just got off boat after four days and about 150 miles of cruising. She did great.

So, my advice would be if the hull and motors get a clean bill of health, push as hard as you can on price and get your tools out!
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Get the engines surveyed and be sure they check the oil pans - they are known for rusting through and leaking. If one needs to be replaced you can get it off without removing the engine, but you have to disconnect the shaft, jack it up, and remove the front mount brace to get it out. Otherwise great boat with quality components.
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Old 09-02-2019, 05:06 PM
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A lot of help and I'm literally making notes of everything suggested.
one good thing is I know about 30k was put into commissioning the boat this season, I'm not exactly sure of the details on that yet but my guess is quite a bit got covered. I know a large built in cockpit freezer was just added too which is a really cool.feature to me.
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Old 09-02-2019, 07:38 PM
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Well built boat. I have the 35 Open, similar but not as heavy as the Express. I presume you're familiar with Tiara's reputation for quality fit & finish, but it's also important to note their top-notch customer service department. If needed, you can reach out to them for information or parts on your boat and they'll in my experience they'll be of great assistance. A real bonus to those of us with older boats (mine is an '02).

Good luck with the survey, and the purchase!
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Old 09-02-2019, 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Fiddlehead View Post
Well built boat. I have the 35 Open, similar but not as heavy as the Express. I presume you're familiar with Tiara's reputation for quality fit & finish, but it's also important to note their top-notch customer service department. If needed, you can reach out to them for information or parts on your boat and they'll in my experience they'll be of great assistance. A real bonus to those of us with older boats (mine is an '02).

Good luck with the survey, and the purchase!
good to know thank you, coming from a grady white I've had pretty good experiences with customer service which made a lot of things much easier.
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Great looking boat. I ran one with cats a few times years ago. Agree with issue areas mentioned and the quality. I just sold a ‘94 31’ after 7 years. 454’s and I loved the boat. Solid heavy never felt unsafe. For the most part nice usable spaces. I found the eng rm tight but my mechanic friend could move around In it easily. There’s been a few times I hit a wake and the spray went right over the boat coming down like a sheet behind us. Lol peeps in the cockpit never end knew. I’ve had it in some decent slop. The corrosion on windshield annoyed me but not too much else.
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Old 09-03-2019, 06:42 PM
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They accepted my offer and gave them a deposit sea trial this weekend hopefully. I got the survey report that was done just recently and the only thing that was a negative mark was a bildge pump float switch. He recorded all of his moisture readings and everything was right in spec through out the whole boat. Probably didnt hurt that it was stored inside for a lot of its life.
I'm still going to have a survey done but that really pretty much sealed to deal for me.
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Congrats, looking forward to seeing pics!
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Old 09-04-2019, 11:42 AM
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The 36 Tiara is the best boat that I ever owned. It did everything well. I fished her, lived on her, cruised on her, and well, did everything but water ski behind her. I ran that boat in the Chesapeake Bay and Atlantic from NC to upper NJ coast. I fished her in the canyons off VA, MD and NJ, and from Miami to the Bahamas. You will love this boat. Mine had Cummins, which were not as thirsty as the Cats.

Expect a cruise at 26 kts +/- at 19.2 GPH. She will run 26 true through a 3-5' sea without pounding. I fished her off OC Md in 12' seas once, no problem.

Keep the gel coat waxed, and the cabin dry. Hatches tend to leak, so be prepared to replace port lights and gaskets. Otherwise, you should have lots of fun with her.

IMHO: These boats are undervalued, and not given all the respect they deserve.
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ive got a newer one, a 2004 version of the 3600. Ive had it for 5 years and all I can say is that its a tank. Great build quality and amazing support from Tiara (I am not the original owner). Even still, Tiara emails me back with any question I have.

Epic company.
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Get an engine oil analysis - that will tell you a lot about the engines
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