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Old 08-31-2019, 01:21 PM
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Hey everyone I'm a new member to this forum but have spent a lot of time on here. I'm starting a new build not my first but definitely my largest! I bought a nice hull 23 allmand that was set up for commercial fishing down here in Florida. My idea for this boat will be a Pacific northwest inspired pilothouse with forward raked windows. I have a baby on the way so I figured I'd need something to get Mama and baby out of the heat and sun and I can fish. I want an a/c run off a little Honda generator for the summers but the windows will open for running most of the time. I would like duel helms also. The hull I got was redone sometime in the past and the transom was filled in but all the work was done half a$$ by Mickey mouse. Every piece of wood on the boat was rotten because it was done so terribly wrong.
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first this to go was the pilot house. It was made with two layers of 1/4 PVC and was sun damaged from the sun that it would shattered very easily
Old 08-31-2019, 01:29 PM
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You the man. Looks like a great project. Will follow. Interested to see your plan.
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The stringers were taped in with 12\" wide chop strand every foot so bare 2x6s were exposed. Luckily there was no peanut butter holding anything down but instead solid polyester resin, so with a few whacks each stringer came up nicely
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A preview of what I have in my head hopefully a little prettier than this though
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Nidacore is what I would use
Old 08-31-2019, 03:39 PM
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Love the hull and house design!
just remember it is only a 23+- boat
so weight will be you biggest issue
what you doing for power
300 on bracket?!
at least you get to start from scratch!
tank, battery placement, bilge access etc.
wynne windows are awesome and affordable
also prisma has lots of cool precast products
for light weight beams stringers etc. also reasonable
Old 08-31-2019, 03:58 PM
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https://www.preforms.com/beams/

https://www.jamestowndistributors.co...ms+Hull+Lumber

Wynne Enterprises Inc.

Merton's Fiberglass & Marine Supply

https://hamiltonmarine.com/

https://www.defender.com/

i know in florida you have lots of boat building
stuff at your fingertips, these are the places I used
and spent tons of money with!!
might help with some ideas
X2 on nidacore for deck




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I do alot of work for the marine industry as a machinist. I get to see my parts on alot of the boats on this forum.. I can't say witch but it tickles me to see them or find them on a shelf at a marine parts store. I think a 300 would be perfect with this boat with an Armstrong type bracket. I plan on nidacore for the deck and house
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With this hurricane, plans have come to a halt and I've just been preparing. Wanted to get some foam core and start cutting stringers but that'll have to wait. Had to take down the canopy I just set a couple weeks ago and strap the cap down. I did take the cap off because I wasn't happy with the shape the weight and the fact all the core was rotten. By the time I would have got it to my liking I would have more work than starting from scratch. I may use some parts for molds.


windows from a old bus

got some windows off a bus that i found
Got some windows off the magic school bus in the junkyard. I think it was highway robbery what the wanted for them at $40 a piece but with some new glass I'm gunna save alot
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Originally Posted by Charlotterose View Post
With this hurricane, plans have come to a halt and I've just been preparing. Wanted to get some foam core and start cutting stringers but that'll have to wait. Had to take down the canopy I just set a couple weeks ago and strap the cap down. I did take the cap off because I wasn't happy with the shape the weight and the fact all the core was rotten. By the time I would have got it to my liking I would have more work than starting from scratch. I may use some parts for molds.


windows from a old bus

got some windows off a bus that i found
Got some windows off the magic school bus in the junkyard. I think it was highway robbery what the wanted for them at $40 a piece but with some new glass I'm gunna save alot
wow thats a good idea
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With all this hurricane prep had to stop and get a deal I couldn't pass up.

Pretty rough but they both run and for 300 bucks I couldn't pass.. guy needed them out of his yard before the hurricane. Planning on fixing both up one for my skiff and one to sell..
Old 09-05-2019, 04:49 PM
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Default Any thought to just using the stock allmand hardtop and flybridge?

I like the pilothouse idea, but the stock hardtop and flybridge are nice! I’m 6’3 and I can stand at the lower station in my boat
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I'm 6'6" so trying to make the pilot house tall enough without making it goofy looking is gunna be the hardest part.
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Originally Posted by taylorlengyel View Post
I like the pilothouse idea, but the stock hardtop and flybridge are nice! I’m 6’3 and I can stand at the lower station in my boat
Do you step down from the cockpit deck into the pilothouse or is it the same level?
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I'm working with an already modified hull so I'm not sure how the original is supposed to look like.
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I would keep deck flush, at 6,6 your min contact height
would have to be like 6,8
your right about looking goofy as it gets taller
also windage is very noticeable.
my seacraft pilothouse was built on wa that actually was
a 6” step up so I made as low as possible
6”4 clearance which wouldn’t work for a giant
like you but was thinking of my brother who’s 6’3
im 6’ so fine. Even then I’m borderline looking goofy
but ya gotta make it work for you so....
id rather it look goofy ( out of proportion)
then step down with bulkhead “trip wire”.
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Subscribed. Good luck with the build !
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Everyone's favorite day! Grinding, grinding, and more grinding! Best part? XL tyvek suits don't fit me. I have to cut them in half and wear them as pants and shirts with about 12" of midriff showing. Then a little tape around my shirt and it works ok. I still have never found tyvek like suits that are long enough for someone 6'6". I got a lot more to do but its looking better. I counted the holes in the transom and there was over 50! no wonder the plywood was rotten. Plywood transoms are great until you drill that many holes and you dont seal them. I also manage to get enough 1 1/2" divinycell for to stringers the length of the boat for only 85 bucks. Bought a bunch of scrap pieces that were about 2'x6'.



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