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Old 08-18-2019, 06:33 AM
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I did a search here on “Life preservers”, and not much came up. Has anyone performed any research on the Offshore Automatic Inflatable Life Jacket with Harnesses? They seem more comfortable to wear. If anyone has a good brand, or one with good features, let me know your thoughts.BTW: I guess application for use is important. I fish the Long Island Sound. We are not talking an offshore trip into the ocean. I just want more guys who come on the boat to wear them and comfort is important. The type 2 life jackets are tough to get people to wear as they are uncomfortable.I saw this:

https://www.westmarine.com/buy/west-marine--offshore-automatic-inflatable-life-jacket-with-harness--16725277?mrkgcl=481&mrkgadid=3202694923&cm_mmc=PS-_-Google-_-GSC%3ENonB%3EProduct%2520Type-_-16725277&product_id=16725277&adpos=1o3&creative=10 8421552804&device=c&matchtype=&network=g&gclid=Cjw KCAjw7uPqBRBlEiwAYDsr19dijpXePMCaNQ7en-HSwU_rgLlk0u7akj8WCooAnOFJWE12-YuOhxoCMfUQAvD_BwE

But was hoping there are less expensive ones.

The Assembly Passes Brianna's Law to Require Boating Safety & Make New York's Waterways a “Safer Place”. If I go Blackfishing after Nov 1st PDF are required. Might as well make everyone comfortable.
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Check this, harness is sold separately.
https://www.hodgesmarine.com/Mustang...tm?click=39123
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I have the exact same pfd's, very comfortable. After having it on for a little while I forget it's there.
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Those west marine ones often go on sale for about half that retail. I bout a couple for around $120 a couple years back.
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The Mustang MD3184 has a harness, but the harness makes it a Type V instead of a Type III

The Mustang MD3183 is a Type III
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Originally Posted by bone-a-fide View Post
Those west marine ones often go on sale for about half that retail. I bout a couple for around $120 a couple years back.
I noticed it said "Type V with Type II performance" The large area behind the neck looks like it might flip you face up is you were unconscious.
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Originally Posted by Tom W Clark View Post
The Mustang MD3184 has a harness, but the harness makes it a Type V instead of a Type III

The Mustang MD3183 is a Type III
The Mustang 3184 02 has a built in harness and according to Mustang's website, it is a Class II when used on non-commercial vsls.

https://www.mustangsurvival.com/en_U...-MD318402.html
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I've been thinking about buying two Mustangs.

If someone sees a sale - please post it.

Thanks.

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Keep your eyes on the great deals thread. Overtons has awesome sales, frequently. I purchased (2) Mustang HIT jackets, with harness for around $110 each a couple months back.
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Originally Posted by BoatGuy View Post
I did a search here on “Life preservers”, and not much came up. Has anyone performed any research on the Offshore Automatic Inflatable Life Jacket with Harnesses? They seem more comfortable to wear. If anyone has a good brand, or one with good features, let me know your thoughts.BTW: I guess application for use is important. I fish the Long Island Sound. We are not talking an offshore trip into the ocean. I just want more guys who come on the boat to wear them and comfort is important. The type 2 life jackets are tough to get people to wear as they are uncomfortable.I saw this:

https://www.westmarine.com/buy/west-marine--offshore-automatic-inflatable-life-jacket-with-harness--16725277?mrkgcl=481&mrkgadid=3202694923&cm_mmc=PS-_-Google-_-GSC%3ENonB%3EProduct%2520Type-_-16725277&product_id=16725277&adpos=1o3&creative=10 8421552804&device=c&matchtype=&network=g&gclid=Cjw KCAjw7uPqBRBlEiwAYDsr19dijpXePMCaNQ7en-HSwU_rgLlk0u7akj8WCooAnOFJWE12-YuOhxoCMfUQAvD_BwE

But was hoping there are less expensive ones.

The Assembly Passes Brianna's Law to Require Boating Safety & Make New York's Waterways a “Safer Place”. If I go Blackfishing after Nov 1st PDF are required. Might as well make everyone comfortable.
I don't understand the need for a harness. My understanding is the harness is predominantly for sailboaters where there is more of a risk of falling overboard.
The Mustang MD 3183 is a great product and comfortable.
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Originally Posted by BoatGuy View Post
I noticed it said "Type V with Type II performance" The large area behind the neck looks like it might flip you face up is you were unconscious.
Yes, it is a very robust PFD but less comfortable than the MD5183 I also own.

The harness is good for sailing and for hoisting someone from the water.
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What I am seeing in all linked PDF/harness, is they don't have crotch straps. These are essential for an offshore harness. I always carried my own harness, with rescue gear (PLB, Strobe, VHF) etc. There was a write up by US sailing released last week of a fatality off Monetray, CA in March. The sailor didn't have a harness, didn't have life lines on the boat, no backlines, and his auto inflate (if it was auto inflate--CG had discarded it) did not function.

Auto inflates have to be checked regularly and re-armed. Boats have to have attachment points for safety harnesses. If you have jacklines, they must go from bow to stern, and have strong attachment points.

Hoisting a dead weight person out of the water is a complicated issue, but very important. We always practice this on each boat we have owned. Current boat has a 6:1 block and tackle Garhauer Davit--150# working load--but I'll trust it to handle my 175# (more wet) in an emergency...just get me to the gunnel!
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Another question comes to mind. According to Brianna's Law, I think it is mandatory to wear starting in November. In Nov, when I fish, I usually have a lot more clothing on. Like a Carhart one piece insulated suit. Then some covering to keep me dry. I wonder how well any PFD except a class one will keep you afloat with all the wet clothing.
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Originally Posted by First Light View Post
The Mustang 3184 02 has a built in harness and according to Mustang's website, it is a Class II when used on non-commercial vsls.

https://www.mustangsurvival.com/en_U...-MD318402.html
Not exactly state of the art and seems very expensive for what it is. Can you get brands like Crewsaver, Spinlock or Secumar in the US?
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I bought the West Marine ones off Ebay many years ago for a reduced price and have changed out the inflating apparatus after many years of use. An important note is they do not count as a life preserver on-board, if they are not being worn. I'm not sure I understand this rule, but it's been repeated here many
times. Also, when the expiration date passes it is time to change out the inflating apparatus, regardless of whether the green or red window is showing. The inflaters can be bought online or West Marine, but be attentive to the expiration date, because the retailers charge the same for one having several years of use left on them, as they do one having only a few months left! If I recall correctly, a new one has about 3 years total use before the inflating apparatus expiration, be sure and inform yourself correctly before buying.
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I use crewsaver life jackets. We can wear them all day and not even notice u are wearing one as it is very comfy. It’s the best quality that I have personally come across. https://crewsaver.com/au/8969/leisur...Crewfit180NPro
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Originally Posted by Fishious View Post
I use crewsaver life jackets. We can wear them all day and not even notice u are wearing one as it is very comfy. It’s the best quality that I have personally come across. https://crewsaver.com/au/8969/leisur...Crewfit180NPro
Don’t think these are USCG approved.
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Originally Posted by Ahoy Vay View Post


Don’t think these are USCG approved.
sorry mate I didn’t realise the 180n pro were not USCG approved but they have plenty of models that are. Check this one.

https://crewsaver.com/us/1812/recrea...ewfit40ProUSCG
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Check out a flotation coat from Mustang. It is more expensive, but provides both warmth and flotation. Also has a spot to secure your PLB to the jacket. Not good for the warm months, but great for the shoulder seasons in LIS.

Mustang Catalyst Flotation coat
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Originally Posted by Ahoy Vay View Post


Don’t think these are USCG approved.

Originally Posted by Fishious View Post

sorry mate I didn’t realise the 180n pro were not USCG approved but they have plenty of models that are. Check this one.

https://crewsaver.com/us/1812/recrea...ewfit40ProUSCG

Which is crazy because the first one (the one not USCG approved) has a far superior firing mechanism - once you've had a UML firing head you'd never want a Halkey Roberts firing head - the rest of the jacket is made to the same standards - you'll find an equivalent to Crewsaver (at least 10 years ahead of Mustang) - you won't find better.

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