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Old 08-06-2019, 05:06 PM
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I have about 16 hours of towing to do. For those that have the F150XBs and use a block of wood, how does this look? For those that think it's a bad idea, why?

I called the boat maker and one of the guys had to ask another one what he does (so clearly there is no policy in place) and he said he runs the tilt ram down until it hits the trim rams and stops there. He also agreed that of the engine is all the way up the weight over the transom is not WORSE than down, its actually more balanced as I have been saying for a long time when reading this stuff. He also confirmed there is no issue with the transom. We all know, or should know, the main issue is that Yamaha recommends not bouncing the engine on the hydraulic system for wear and tear reasons.

So does the block satisfy this? Am I going to mess up my paint? The trailer is very soft riding.

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Originally Posted by proaudioguy View Post



I have about 16 hours of towing to do. For those that have the F150XBs and use a block of wood, how does this look? For those that think it's a bad idea, why?

I called the boat maker and one of the guys had to ask another one what he does (so clearly there is no policy in place) and he said he runs the tilt ram down until it hits the trim rams and stops there. He also agreed that of the engine is all the way up the weight over the transom is not WORSE than down, its actually more balanced as I have been saying for a long time when reading this stuff. He also confirmed there is no issue with the transom. We all know, or should know, the main issue is that Yamaha recommends not bouncing the engine on the hydraulic system for wear and tear reasons.

So does the block satisfy this? Am I going to mess up my paint? The trailer is very soft riding.
Ever hear of making a mountain out of a molehill? My God some of you people should relax, or find a good medication to calm you down. 16 hours is a few states. Relax, tilt it up and drive.
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Put the trailer lock on the motor and trim the rams down.
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Will one of those cradle things work on your trailer? You place one end of it on your trailer and your lower until rests in the other. It's called a transom saver. My friends uses one and he claims its great for whatever that's worth. 30 bucks at wally world

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Old 08-06-2019, 06:15 PM
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Buy some of the round “wedge” thingmabobbers best think I’ve used on my motors ,

look em up
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Buy this and don't look back. Yeah, yeah I know guys, you can do it with a 4"x4" or a piece of pvc pipe.

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Get these and trim them to fit. Best money you will spend

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For some reason the pics did not show up and I can't see to make them show up. Going to try from my phone.

OK tried on the phone, it also won't make the pictures show up. What gives?
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Originally Posted by finatic_21 View Post
Buy some of the round “wedge” thingmabobbers best think I’ve used on my motors ,

look em up
Oh yea, for the 2 engines it would cost better than $120. I tried gluing up a bunch of hockey pucks with a piece of schedule 40 in the middle and put that over the trim and lowered the engine and it crushed it. The pucks just split. I have a common solution in place IF I could get the dang pictures to load. I am only asking for opinions on what I have done, positive or negative.
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OK for no apparent reason I finally was able to get the pics to show up doing the exact same thing I've done 10 other times. See the original post and comment please.
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$50.00 a piece.
Regular trailing clips with a little dremel carving is the same thing but cheaper
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I have about 16 hours of towing to do. For those that have the F150XBs and use a block of wood, how does this look? For those that think it's a bad idea, why?

I called the boat maker and one of the guys had to ask another one what he does (so clearly there is no policy in place) and he said he runs the tilt ram down until it hits the trim rams and stops there. He also agreed that of the engine is all the way up the weight over the transom is not WORSE than down, its actually more balanced as I have been saying for a long time when reading this stuff. He also confirmed there is no issue with the transom. We all know, or should know, the main issue is that Yamaha recommends not bouncing the engine on the hydraulic system for wear and tear reasons.

So does the block satisfy this? Am I going to mess up my paint? The trailer is very soft riding.
Ever hear of making a mountain out of a molehill? My God some of you people should relax, or find a good medication to calm you down. 16 hours is a few states. Relax, tilt it up and drive.
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Tilt it down - not up. Don’t worry about the wood. You like have 12-16” of clearance when trimmed down.

that piece of wood COULD be unnecessarily dangerous (what if it bounces out?)

ive always been more concerned with the engine swaying side to side. Don’t worry about it up or down, but bungee the steering wheel if it moves easy back there. You’ll be fine.
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Originally Posted by sjef View Post
Ever hear of making a mountain out of a molehill? My God some of you people should relax, or find a good medication to calm you down. 16 hours is a few states. Relax, tilt it up and drive.
Yeah I've never done anything like that, tilt it up, get to the ramp, splash, tilt it down, fire it up. Are there defects or loads greater than what a engine will do to the trim while running vs trailering?
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Originally Posted by sjef View Post
Ever hear of making a mountain out of a molehill? My God some of you people should relax, or find a good medication to calm you down. 16 hours is a few states. Relax, tilt it up and drive.

Its only 1 state, 16 hours is round trip at about 50mph.

The manual specifically says to take the pressure off the hydraulic system when trailering.

Tilting it down is too close to the ground. If I back up near a curb I would take out the skeg and prop. If I enter or exit a driveway with a steep entry that would also be a disaster. Trimmed out all the way works fine (where all 3 rams are engaged).
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$50.00 a piece.
Regular trailing clips with a little dremel carving is the same thing but cheaper
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This thing is a joke. It doesn't even get the engine tilted up high enough. I think if I could use 2 per engine and they were closer to $20, then it would work but there is a zirk there.
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I do something similar​​​​. I took 2 x 6 and drilled holes in them and put it over both trim rams. The holes are deep enough that the board is on the trim caps. Then I bring it down to prevent bouncing. Also, because the boards are over the rams they cant fall out.
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Yeah I've never done anything like that, tilt it up, get to the ramp, splash, tilt it down, fire it up. Are there defects or loads greater than what a engine will do to the trim while running vs trailering?
I honestly don't know. I think in use you are using all 3 rams while trailering you are just using the tilt. I've been taking it back and forth (90 mins round trip) just tilted all the way up for a year.
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Tilt it down - not up. Don’t worry about the wood. You like have 12-16” of clearance when trimmed down.

that piece of wood COULD be unnecessarily dangerous (what if it bounces out?)

ive always been more concerned with the engine swaying side to side. Don’t worry about it up or down, but bungee the steering wheel if it moves easy back there. You’ll be fine.

The wood will not bounce out. I can't even lift the engine off the wood enough to budge it.

If I tilt down to the trim rams, I can clear most obstacles. If I trim it all the way down/ in, the skeg and prop are considerably lower than the trailer axles and it has 16" wheels and radials.
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I’m not sure I follow the logic behind having the outboard tilted up for less transom stress while towing. Sure... in a static (not moving) situation the weight will be more balanced with the outboard tilted up horizontally, however while trailering and going over bumps etc the tendency for the motor to rock back and forth on the fulcrum point is FAR greater. With the outboard tilted down as vertically as possible you can minimize its tendency to rock back and forth like a seesaw on the transom. Both Yamaha outboards that I’ve owned have stated the following in the owners manual:

“The outboard motor should be trailered and stored in the normal running position. If there is insufficient road clearance in this position, then trailer the outboard motor in the tilt position using a motor support device such as a transom saver bar. Consult your Yamaha dealer for further details.”

if if your boat/trailer situation has your skeg dragging on the pavement while the outboard is tilted down on the trim rams then I’d investigate some type of transom saver but otherwise I’d just tilt the motor down as vertical as possible and tow as is.
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