Go Back  The Hull Truth - Boating and Fishing Forum > BOATING FORUMS > The Boating Forum
Reload this Page >

Imperfections in a new hull? Advise please.

Notices
The Boating Forum

Imperfections in a new hull? Advise please.

Old 07-14-2019, 01:22 PM
  #1  
Admirals Club Admiral's Club Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Aug 2018
Posts: 34
Likes: 0
Received 12 Likes on 8 Posts
Default Imperfections in a new hull? Advise please.

I recently took delivery of a new boat that was custom built from a reputable builder and although it seems like a great boat the hull is covered in major imperfections ranging from deep scratches to no less than 10 major dents the size softballs. When you look down the length of the hull it is completely wavy and resembles a fun house mirror. I was told from the builder all of his hulls are like that and I should focus on how great the boat rides. At this point all I want is for the hull to look like new boat and not one that was beat with a baseball bat. Does anyone know how this can be repaired?
I'm attaching a photo but with the suns glare its hard to capture in pictures.

Last edited by Metalbound; 07-14-2019 at 01:31 PM. Reason: typo

Popular Reply

07-14-2019, 02:15 PM
alloyboy
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Land down under
Posts: 13,800
Received 2,960 Likes on 1,780 Posts
Default

Don't ever look down the fuselage or wing surface of a $200 million dollar airplane. You won't like what you see.
Old 07-14-2019, 01:29 PM
  #2  
Senior MemberCaptains Club Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Boynton Beach Islamorada
Posts: 3,015
Received 1,071 Likes on 555 Posts
Default

Wow I'm really sorry that absolutely does not look right. I'm not sure if there is a fix that would be reasonable.
Old 07-14-2019, 01:30 PM
  #3  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2015
Posts: 135
Received 12 Likes on 9 Posts
Default

What do his other builds look like?
Old 07-14-2019, 01:31 PM
  #4  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 1,452
Likes: 0
Received 495 Likes on 293 Posts
Default

Have you confirmed or denied that his other boats all look like this? Also is it Gelcoat or Paint? Your photo definitely shows "dents". I would be upset with that on a presumably expensive purchase.
Old 07-14-2019, 01:33 PM
  #5  
Senior MemberCaptains Club Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: United States
Posts: 10,318
Likes: 0
Received 2,262 Likes on 1,031 Posts
Default

I would recommend looking at other boats from the builder and seeing if they look the same as yours.
Likes:
Old 07-14-2019, 01:34 PM
  #6  
Admirals Club Admiral's Club Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Aug 2018
Posts: 34
Likes: 0
Received 12 Likes on 8 Posts
Default

I was told that his other boats look like this and for $140,000 I expect better.
Old 07-14-2019, 01:40 PM
  #7  
Admirals Club Admiral's Club Member
THT sponsor
 
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Holden Beach
Posts: 350
Likes: 0
Received 279 Likes on 140 Posts
Default

I’d definitely take a look at his other builds, maybe its just a product of his process but it looks bad. If what I think are the ‘dents’ are actually how they look, I think I’d be upset, regardless of how it rides. You want it to look the part too.
Likes:
Old 07-14-2019, 01:40 PM
  #8  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2019
Posts: 383
Likes: 0
Received 80 Likes on 59 Posts
Default

sometimes fiberglass boats wave a wavy appearance out of the water, usually not real noticeable until waxing looking down the side, but if i may yours looks a little extreme. i would imagine if others hulls by the same person look the same, could just be the way they are, but if not i would not settle for a BS excuse, your out in the long if there are any issues and also have to consider down the road for resale
Old 07-14-2019, 01:55 PM
  #9  
Admirals Club Admiral's Club Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Boca Raton
Posts: 2,346
Received 954 Likes on 531 Posts
Default

Zoom out or tell us the builder?
Old 07-14-2019, 01:55 PM
  #10  
Senior MemberCaptains Club Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Pittsburgh, Pennsyltucky
Posts: 7,389
Received 1,574 Likes on 731 Posts
Default

Take a baseball bat to his car and call it even.
Old 07-14-2019, 02:12 PM
  #11  
Admirals Club Admiral's Club Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Aug 2018
Posts: 34
Likes: 0
Received 12 Likes on 8 Posts
Default

Yes the round reflections are indeed dents.
Old 07-14-2019, 02:15 PM
  #12  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Land down under
Posts: 13,800
Received 2,960 Likes on 1,780 Posts
Default

Don't ever look down the fuselage or wing surface of a $200 million dollar airplane. You won't like what you see.
Likes:
allmarine, Captain AL, cummins28, efx, goombaby, jcirks, mwgoldman, N747JB, robollie, Savannah Dan, SolOps and 6 others liked this post. (Show less...)
Old 07-14-2019, 02:23 PM
  #13  
Admirals Club Admiral's Club Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: Grant-Valkaria
Posts: 36
Received 6 Likes on 3 Posts
Default

You would have noticed waves and dents like that at the dealer or wherever you were looking at the original boat. I doubt this is the first time you’ve ever laid eyes on (boat manufacturer name) before. High probability someone on this forum has your boat and can save you some headaches before the real headaches start. Sorry you’re dealing with this.
Old 07-14-2019, 02:27 PM
  #14  
Admirals Club Admiral's Club Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 1,020
Received 398 Likes on 192 Posts
Default

Would a surveyor have picked that up? Do you need a surveyor on a new build? Seems like it with some of the recent threads about gel coat cracks, crooked pilot houses, etc....
Old 07-14-2019, 02:34 PM
  #15  
Admirals Club Admiral's Club Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Aug 2018
Posts: 34
Likes: 0
Received 12 Likes on 8 Posts
Default

I have seen other boats like mine but none with the extensive imperfections like I received. My intention of this post is not to "out" the builder but to ask if anyone knows it this can be fixed?
Likes:
Old 07-14-2019, 02:57 PM
  #16  
Admirals Club Admiral's Club Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Big Pine Key/Orlando/Maggie Valley
Posts: 2,973
Received 834 Likes on 475 Posts
Default

Up close like that there is no way to really evaluate it. Shoot a few pics down the side from front, rear and side. Fiberglass is rarely perfectly smooth.
Old 07-14-2019, 03:22 PM
  #17  
Senior MemberCaptains Club MemberPLEDGER
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: CA & San Carlos, Mx
Posts: 22,682
Received 992 Likes on 650 Posts
Default

I suspect that something on the inside of the wall like a bulkhead or post did not fit tight against sides prior to connecting the two with glass. If this happens, usually the gap is filled with paste prior to glassing.
So when the resin on the glass tab dried, it shrank as is normal. it pulled the weaker flat surface towards the stronger one, creating what I would call a warp more than a dent from a strike.

In any case, this can de-waxed with acetone, roughened with 80 grit, filled with gel coat thickened paste, then re-sanded with a long board using 80 and mateching gel coat before fine sanding with 150/320 and 600 grit prior to curing for a week to polish and wax. Labor and time consuming, but easily fixable, like 95% of the problems you see in all laminates. Matching the gel coats will be tricky part imo.

You are probably looking at 20 hrs or $2-3k to do 4-6 softball areas, but I could easily be off on my estimate as your photos are not that detailed.

Last edited by Bullshipper; 07-14-2019 at 03:41 PM.
Old 07-14-2019, 03:22 PM
  #18  
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2016
Posts: 46
Received 10 Likes on 9 Posts
Default

In my humble opinion I believe the hull was still green ( not 100% cured) when popped from the mold. When production is too busy for the available molds a day less in the mold keeps the volume going.
Molds are very expensive and well treated as they are polished, repaired if needed, buffed, cleaned and treated with release wax. Gelcoat is applied and while tacky resin, then 1708 fiberglass is rolled ( or whatever the laminate schedule is) out and glassed in with soft rollers and the air or bubbles pushed out with metal rollers/bars.
Hard to believe those dents would not be seen in the layup process.
I have been in the production plants of Sportcraft, Mako, and Angler, during the 70’s and 80’s and it was most important to let the hull cure in the mold.
There is a video I will post of a new 28 ft cc being built the correct way and it’s impressive.

thanks for listening
JC
Likes:
Old 07-14-2019, 03:39 PM
  #19  
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2016
Posts: 46
Received 10 Likes on 9 Posts
Default



this boat company is building boats like a work of art
Likes:
Old 07-14-2019, 03:59 PM
  #20  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Coeyman NY
Posts: 844
Received 181 Likes on 94 Posts
Default

Yes, most likely it can be fixed but it will be a lot of work and it will not be cheap. Why did you take delivery of the boat looking like that.

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service - Do Not Sell My Personal Information -

Copyright © 2018 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.