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Old 06-15-2019, 06:39 AM
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No need to worry about Yamahas future. They also make pianos, organs, guitars, brass instruments, string instruments, motorcycles, electronics, power sports equipment, etc.....and so on, and so on. Nippon Gakki has been around before 1900.
They will survive.
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Old 06-15-2019, 06:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Parker Yacht View Post
Do you have ANYTHING to back this up?
Seriously.
Yamaha has probably sold more XF425's in the last year, than Seven has in total.
Buying transom's from whom?
Yamaha's sales last year and the year before were up some 17% or so.
What proof do you have to make these statements?
Do you have anything to back up your statements? How many 425s were sold? I'm assuming your 17% sale number is for Yamaha products. I want to know how many Yamaha OUTBOARDS were sold. Do you have that number? I could care less about how many instruments or golf carts they've sold. I am concerned that their outboard branch is about to go down the tubes because of what I keep seeing, and because no one can provide me any valid information with regard to their sales. Should we start a gofundme for them?
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Originally Posted by SeaCat22 View Post
No need to worry about Yamahas future. They also make pianos, organs, guitars, brass instruments, string instruments, motorcycles, electronics, power sports equipment, etc.....and so on, and so on. Nippon Gakki has been around before 1900.
They will survive.
I hope so, but when their outboard sales keep plummeting, are they going to still keep manufacturing them?
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Old 06-15-2019, 07:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Fatbill View Post
I hope so, but when their outboard sales keep plummeting, are they going to still keep manufacturing them?
Please post where this information is published?

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Old 06-15-2019, 07:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Fatbill View Post
I hope so, but when their outboard sales keep plummeting, are they going to still keep manufacturing them?
There are lots of people posting on this website who don't have a clue what they are talking about. Oh wait, that's you.
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Old 06-15-2019, 07:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Fatbill View Post
Do you have anything to back up your statements? How many 425s were sold? I'm assuming your 17% sale number is for Yamaha products. I want to know how many Yamaha OUTBOARDS were sold. Do you have that number? I could care less about how many instruments or golf carts they've sold. I am concerned that their outboard branch is about to go down the tubes because of what I keep seeing, and because no one can provide me any valid information with regard to their sales. Should we start a gofundme for them?
You do know what happens when you assume, correct?
This is one XF425 (1001252) we recently serviced.That is unit number 1252, I have no idea how many have been sold, but, they are still coming.
The +17% is outboard units in the US market.
Yes please: GOFUNDYamahaUSA.
Troll.

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Originally Posted by Parker Yacht View Post
You do know what happens when you assume, correct?
This is one XF425 (1001252) we recently serviced.That is unit number 1252, I have no idea how many have been sold, but, they are still coming.
The +17% is outboard units in the US market.
Yes please: GOFUNDYamahaUSA.
Troll.
One of the later units produced already needs servicing? That is concerning, I just don't see how they will make it with the maintenance schedule they require. Also where are you getting this 17% figure?

Another thing I'm concerned about is even if their sales figures are growing, their market share looks like it's declining. In other words the growth of other outboard manufacturers appears to be exceeding Yamaha. That's what's getting me all worried. I don't see how this can be sustained, and fear this will lead to their demise.

I think it should be GOFUNDYamahaOutboardsUSA for more clarity. If they get enough funding, I'm hoping they can actually come up with something innovative enough to keep up with the growth of other outboard manufacturers. Perhaps that will help save them.
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Old 06-15-2019, 07:37 AM
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Even though this is a troll thread, I really do feel bad for this guy lol.

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Old 06-15-2019, 08:03 AM
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Had a Yamaha 115 four stroke on a 20ft. bay boat and did my own maintenance. Boat lived on a drive on dock so any maintenance required loading it back on trailer. My local Yamaha dealer would repower me to a 150 but did not want anything to do with my 2012 115 motor. I was impressed with how easy Mercury make maintenance on their 150hp four stroke and the favorable reviews of the motor. I can do a great majority of the maintenance on the dock and all specifications including spark plug gape are printed on the engine info label. Don't know about the longevity of the motor as mine is fairly new but they make ownership easy.
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Old 06-15-2019, 08:21 AM
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Originally Posted by First Light View Post
There are lots of people posting on this website who don't have a clue what they are talking about. Oh wait, that's you.
Be careful. Very careful.

Have you no sense of decency man?
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Old 06-15-2019, 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Grunts N Grits View Post
Who was Mercury getting all their 4-stroke power heads from, for how many years
Evinrude?

Just a guess. More torque. Lighter weight. Better efficiency. No maintenance. What's not to love about them?

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Old 06-15-2019, 08:35 AM
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why is it that the 450 xto yamaha steering (I think it is steering) looks a lot like the evinrude steering, that came first?
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Originally Posted by Parker Yacht View Post
Do you have ANYTHING to back this up?
Seriously.
Yamaha has probably sold more XF425's in the last year, than Seven has in total.
Buying transom's from whom?
Yamaha's sales last year and the year before were up some 17% or so.
What proof do you have to make these statements?
You don't get it? Our society has completely gone off the rails. Truth and facts don't matter at all anymore. We really are fu** 'ed up.
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Old 06-15-2019, 08:44 AM
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So many of you have missed the point of this thread. It's not a troll, it's a tongue-in-cheek response to another similar thread. With a focused point. But I do like how the yamaha lovers have gotten all offended. Do onto others men.
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Old 06-15-2019, 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by smccormick View Post
So many of you have missed the point of this thread. It's not a troll, it's a tongue-in-cheek response to another similar thread. With a focused point. But I do like how the yamaha lovers have gotten all offended. Do onto others men.
It's priceless. They wouldn't see irony if it slept with their wife.
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Old 06-15-2019, 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by trout25red View Post
It's priceless. They wouldn't see irony if it slept with their wife.
look at the brightside.
It wakes ya'll up from your annual slumber, we get to throw some sling around, slap each other, you BRP fans (all five of ya) get to say hello to each other in public, last for a couple of days and everyone goes home.
On a Saturday no less.
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Old 06-15-2019, 09:33 AM
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I am just concerned is all. Up until recently, I had a Contender powered by a single Yamaha F250. The boat was kept on a lift, but the motor got expensive to maintain and doing oil changes was a PITA. Nice boat though, my friend is enjoying it (well it's in the shop now for maintenance on the motor, but the hull is very nice). I see the public hasn't taken kindly to their new 425 outboard, which weighs as much as the Seven Marine motor with far less horsepower. I'm starting to see more and more Evinrude G2 motors on the water, and even some of the new Mercury four strokes. I am worried about Yamaha's fate. I know they are still buying transoms, but if that stops, what is going to be left to hold up Yamaha? I just don't want to see this wonderful company go down the shitter
Don't worry, they still make golf carts and believe electric organs. Although I did hear the golf carts were having a problem with exhaust corrosion and the electric organs have disintegrating flywheels.
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oops missed it was parody thread.

I feel for ANYONE who has bought a motor from ANY mfg and said motor dies catastrophically. These things are so bloody expensive.

I personally don't want to see ANYONE's Yamaha, Merc, Suke, or BRP die.....I am an OMC(I know they are gone...go Bombardier!) fan, but appreciate ALL of the engineers' efforts in their own products. What has been coming out from these mfgs is amazing.
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Old 06-15-2019, 09:39 AM
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Makes me wonder why you bought one, you and Whaler should put your money where you mouth and your hearts are go to other side.For every one that goes to the two stroke side in larger motors 20 or so go to other so it will all even out.

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I keep seeing videos of Yamaha four stroke outboards failing. Here are just a couple examples:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4vaXXMK7p8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUhvGhBwX8E

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zraU6e9T2EA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFwHdLlKSMo


I am also worried that they have to resort to videos like this to make oil changes look appealing:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkDCpqgFkHs

Are they scared that the public will realize it is a PITA to do oil changes when your boat is on a lift? Are they scared their engines have poor fuel economy compared to some of their competitors? Do you think they will make the move to DI two strokes in order to get better fuel economy, better torque, and avoid all of the four stroke oil changes and maintenance?
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Old 06-15-2019, 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by combi_40 View Post
why is it that the 450 xto yamaha steering (I think it is steering) looks a lot like the evinrude steering, that came first?
Maybe the exterior shape looks similar, the components and execution is nothing similar.
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