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Next Boat? Whitewater 28, Conch 27, SeaVee 29, Onslow Bay 27

Old 06-09-2019, 05:15 PM
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Your answer is 27OB or the 29 CV if you can find one. There is a 27OB a guy mentioned selling on here the other night. If he will sell it, buy it.
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Old 06-09-2019, 05:54 PM
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I just got my 2nd Onslow Bay 2 weeks ago & there awesome boats. I’m in Jupiter if you want to come up & see one in person
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Old 06-09-2019, 06:09 PM
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I’d hold out for the Sea Vee. I looked for over a year until I found a 290B, well worth the wait!
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Old 06-09-2019, 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by burningdaylight View Post
For 135K, just order a brand new 2020 28' Whitewater with brand new 4 stroke engines, brand new rigging, new fuel tanks, etc etc etc.

I've fished three different Conchs, and yes they are the best riding CC in their class, but for that price I'm choosing the Whitewater all day, every day. The E & D Conch is also a balsa cored hull, every Whitewater ever built is a solid glass hull.

Not going to get into what is better but Conch's are NOT cored with balsa (you know this as you have seen in the core of one of the Conch's you have been on) its airex (or similar foam) and it's not the entire bottom, not stating its perfect.... but there is a huge difference with balsa and airex (and yes with solid glass as well but again that's a ford/chevy/no win debate)
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Old 06-10-2019, 05:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Trayder View Post
Not going to get into what is better but Conch's are NOT cored with balsa (you know this as you have seen in the core of one of the Conch's you have been on) its airex (or similar foam) and it's not the entire bottom, not stating its perfect.... but there is a huge difference with balsa and airex (and yes with solid glass as well but again that's a ford/chevy/no win debate)
I didn't realize it was Airex and not balsa.

Does having a wet core on a cored hull matter in the long run? My T Craft was definitely balsa by the way.
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Old 06-10-2019, 08:21 AM
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Originally Posted by burningdaylight View Post
I didn't realize it was Airex and not balsa.

Does having a wet core on a cored hull matter in the long run? My T Craft was definitely balsa by the way.

I don't think having a wet core is ideal regardless of the material.... but Balsa will rot rapidly if/when wet and it is not in any of the C27's

I have seen far more extensive rebuilds on recreationally used WW's due rot from the use of plywood in the stringers , deck, transom etc vs Conch's which seem to only have core issues when run like sledgehammer for 20plus years by commercial captains that use their boats as tools daily. Ideally.... I would like the solid glass bottom from the WW, removable fuel Hatches from the WW and everything else from a Conch, but as usual there is no perfect boat
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Old 06-10-2019, 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by burningdaylight View Post
For 135K, just order a brand new 2020 28' Whitewater with brand new 4 stroke engines, brand new rigging, new fuel tanks, etc etc etc.

I've fished three different Conchs, and yes they are the best riding CC in their class, but for that price I'm choosing the Whitewater all day, every day. The E & D Conch is also a balsa cored hull, every Whitewater ever built is a solid glass hull.
ummm really?
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Old 06-10-2019, 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by savage25xtreme View Post
ummm really?
Ummmm...yes.

To my knowledge, yes, all the hulls are solid glass, the stringers, transom and decks are glassed marine ply.

In fact, these boats are built with shite materials using outdated construction techniques, have a terrible layout, and ride like crap. No one should buy a Whitewater.

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Old 06-10-2019, 11:27 AM
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Thanks only onafly for the offer. Would love to take a look at the OB. I will shoot you a PM.

I could stretch the budget a little for the right boat and go to 140 (no trailer). I see a lot of debate on the WW and Conch (good and bad). Is it worth holding out for the right 29 CV or OB? My main concern is quality(finish and ride). I obviously love the idea of having a boat that’s desirable and has good resale. Thanks again for all the comments, really appreciate it.
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Old 06-10-2019, 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by jjbrown View Post
Thanks only onafly for the offer. Would love to take a look at the OB. I will shoot you a PM.

I could stretch the budget a little for the right boat and go to 140 (no trailer). I see a lot of debate on the WW and Conch (good and bad). Is it worth holding out for the right 29 CV or OB? My main concern is quality(finish and ride). I obviously love the idea of having a boat that’s desirable and has good resale. Thanks again for all the comments, really appreciate it.
If you're gonna wait around for the CV why not put a deposit down for a new WW in the mean time? 140 should get you what you need in a new one especially with no trailer. If you find a CV that meets your specs before the WW gets built you should be able to get your deposit back.
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Old 06-13-2019, 06:20 AM
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Originally Posted by burningdaylight View Post
I didn't realize it was Airex and not balsa.

Does having a wet core on a cored hull matter in the long run? My T Craft was definitely balsa by the way.
my DV was balsa cored, too.
Total piece of shit boat. Don't ever buy one. Just horrible. Send them all to me and I'll dispose of them.
That being said, I love knowing I have a solid glass hull now. Was a major factor in my purchase.
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Old 06-13-2019, 06:44 AM
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Originally Posted by coores14 View Post
my DV was balsa cored, too.
Total piece of shit boat. Don't ever buy one. Just horrible. Send them all to me and I'll dispose of them.
That being said, I love knowing I have a solid glass hull now. Was a major factor in my purchase.
I also love having a solid glass hull, not to say cored hulls are bad as I would not hesitate to buy a brand new cored hull. But when we start talking about 20+ year old cored hulls, it is definitely something to think about. That is a lot of years for past owners to have drilled into the core and not sealed it properly.

That is just my thought process. All the boats listed are great
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Old 06-13-2019, 06:53 AM
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Originally Posted by 305seahunter View Post
I also love having a solid glass hull, not to say cored hulls are bad as I would not hesitate to buy a brand new cored hull. But when we start talking about 20+ year old cored hulls, it is definitely something to think about. That is a lot of years for past owners to have drilled into the core and not sealed it properly.

That is just my thought process. All the boats listed are great
exactly my thoughts. Cored hulls aren't bad. Definitely not saying that. My love for Conchs and the DV is proof.
I just prefer my eventual squishiness to be in the deck or cap and not in the running surface.
If done properly and taken care of properly, none of it should be an issue anyway.
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Old 06-13-2019, 11:15 AM
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How does the conch 27 ride compare to the conch 30? I have spent some time on the 30 with twin Verados. It rides a little ass-heavy as the bow is hard to keep down in seas. Wondering if the 27 with the motor on the transom is a better balanced package.
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Old 06-14-2019, 01:15 PM
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Look at Latitude Tournament Boats, find them on Facebook and look at what they build. They are in Ft. Meyers. They build a 25 and are building a 29 based on the older Sea Vee hull i’ve Been told. It should be within your budget for a new one and finished better than the other boats in that price range. I was very impressed with what they are building and my standards are very high. Not a better boat for the money IMO. I have fished and run every boat you are considering except the OB. All good boats for sure and all have their pro’s and cons. For what I do the Sea Vee is the most versatile. It all comes down to what you want in YOUR boat. If your a live bait, tournament guy then conch would be a good choice as they have more livewell space than the others(generally). Personally I like the ride of the Sea Vee over all all the boats you listed in the rough stuff( except OB as ive never been on one). Whitewater 28 would be close behind and the conch not far behind that. You wont be disappointed in any of them. Good luck and make sure you give Latitude a look at least, you might just find your boat.
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Old 06-14-2019, 02:47 PM
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I love the WW, but good luck getting out at $135k new.
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Originally Posted by donzi561 View Post
25 white water


25 whitewater

Wow, that color scheme is awful.
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Old 06-14-2019, 04:07 PM
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There’s a 290 for sale on offer up, one blown power head and leaking forward fuel tank. He is asking 55k, might be a little steep.
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Old 06-19-2019, 09:18 PM
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I have an older 28 whitewater and love it
Love the 290B as well

my short list of boats 2 years ago was exactly the same as yours but 31 contender was on mine as well

a 290 seavee came up but had new power and was out of my price range, a couple others i looked at had issues

i do not regret the 28 ww decision

what i can't figure out is how anyone on here thinks the op can have a new ww built, with power, electronics, and rigged to fish for $135-40k.......i looked at one last month that had just come into a s fl shop for stereo, powered with twin 300 zukes and did have a bad ass electronics package but shop owner told me the guy would have $195k+ in it before it floated
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Originally Posted by Lazy Bones View Post
I love the WW, but good luck getting out at $135k new.
you can get a brand new one under 135k no problem. Quite a bit under 135k.
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