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Purchased! 1997 Four Winns 195 Sundowner. 5.7GL

Old 06-08-2019, 04:29 PM
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Well, as some of you may know from my other thread on dock side chat, our little 16 foot open bow got totaled. So this will be its replacement.

https://www.islandlakemarine.com/inv...9419-10122556i

The pictures in the link do not do it justice, it is an absolutely stunning condition. Especially for its age. Zero issues with the vinyl, engine looks like it has been detailed, the boat shop said they havenít touched it since it got brought in. We put money down on to hold it and will go pick it up later in the week. The marina is kind of cool as the back of the shop sits right on the water on its own private lake, so we will put it through its paces and check all of the systems before we except delivery. I will update this thread with more pictures when we take delivery.

interesting story, the salesman we bought it from sold this boat brand new in 1997, took it back in on trade and sold it again to the second owner who has had it for the past 15 years. We will only be the third owner and he has sold it again. The same boat, three times LOL.

it has been stored indoors for it whole life. And with a little elbow grease it will fit in my garage and will again be stored indoors.

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Congratulations! It looks great and should be a good fit for you and where you live.
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This is a horrible picture of it, and like a moron I didnít take any while I was there looking at it. But just some more information about it, it has the carbureted 5.7 V8. With only 318 hours. Absolutely looks brand new, the bilge was spotless. Everything was solid. Comes with a Bimini top and full camping tent enclosure. here in Wyoming, we can get a 40į temperature swing just from an afternoon thunder shower. So itís nice to have the option if we need to stay warm. It will be used on small lakes as I live nowhere near the ocean. It is professionally maintained, and adult owned. With no children until me LOL, I have three kids and this will give them a place to be while I fish off the back.

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Insurance check from my last boat showed up today!

making plans to pick it up tomorrow!
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Best of luck with it. That’s a good brand and seems to fit your needs well
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That boat with a 5.7...should get up and flat out, haul a..
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That boat with a 5.7...should get up and flat out, haul a..
Itís a weird 5.7 they have a 2 barrel carb choked down to 210 horse. Iím going to go to the junkyard and find a four barrel intake manifold and a nice marine carburetor. Should be around 260 hp? Then over the next couple years, my buddy Russ has a hot rod shop and Iím going to build a 383 stroker on the side for it and make it a sleeper. Just because I can LOL
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Should be around 215-235 HP

https://everythingaboutboats.org/volvo-penta/
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Old 06-11-2019, 05:52 PM
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Itís a weird 5.7 they have a 2 barrel carb choked down to 210 horse. Iím going to go to the junkyard and find a four barrel intake manifold and a nice marine carburetor. Should be around 260 hp? Then over the next couple years, my buddy Russ has a hot rod shop and Iím going to build a 383 stroker on the side for it and make it a sleeper. Just because I can LOL
Alpha1 drive? They're at their limit already. 4 bbl. only helps power at full throttle max. rpm. 3000-3500 rrpm, both carbs are identical in power. Keep what ya got for now. High altitude? Is it jetted correctly??
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My second of 3 Four Winns was a 1994 210 Horizon. Same hull, but the bow rider version. Great boats, which were considered pretty quality builds back then. I had the optional power 5.7 (351 Ford block) which had an OMC Cobra drive. If I recall it was at least 260 HP. Best of luck.
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Alpha1 drive? They're at their limit already. 4 bbl. only helps power at full throttle max. rpm. 3000-3500 rrpm, both carbs are identical in power. Keep what ya got for now. High altitude? Is it jetted correctly??

It's a Volvo/Omc
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Curious what you paid? Going to guess $6k.
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It's a Volvo/Omc
Then he's ok. In any case, 4 bbl. may not give as much oomph as he thinks. There's a lot of exhaust restriction in an outdrive, and they just don't breathe well at high rpm. That's one reason many outdrives have a 2 bbl., lousy high rom breathing!
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Alpha1 drive? They're at their limit already. 4 bbl. only helps power at full throttle max. rpm. 3000-3500 rrpm, both carbs are identical in power. Keep what ya got for now. High altitude? Is it jetted correctly??

Mercury stuck Alpha's behind 330 horse 454's in '87 & '88
The real cause for failure with the high HP is everyone liked the hole shot along with the heat on the top end because they road out of the water.
To make them last they needed showers and the exhaust vented through the hull
Over 300 HP you better baby it
That"s why Mercury uses the Bravo's on applications over 300 horses
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Not trying to dissuade you, but did you check this thing over GOOD for rot? In those pics, I can see a spot next to the motor box that looks like it could be rotten.

You'd be amazed at how quickly a marina can take a neglected boat and clean it up to make it look good.

If you had this thing looked over then maybe it's just a stain. But please, check that ski locker, the floor (especially back corners), motor mounts (try to tighten them) and the transom (remove drain plug and probe up) for rot. These are nice boats when kept dry, but these 90's FW's are NOTORIOUS for rot. "Stored indoors" means nothing if they ran it all day, then parked it in a garage with a wet bilge.

If this is just a marina saying "yep, we checked it over, she's good to go!" then I would get a second opinion.

Again, not trying to nitpick, but rather trying to save you from a disaster.
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Boat looks great but I'd rip up all that carpet, check the deck for rot, fix anything you find...then have it gelcoated in non skid gelcoat. I did mine about 12 years ago and it still looks good.



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You can never have enough power in my mind but I think you'll find that 5.7 very adequate as is even with the 2 bbl. A lot of boats this size have the 3.0 4 banger.

4bbl, headers and thru-hull exhaust would be kind of cool though
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Itís not letting me upload pictures for some reason? Anyone else having this issue? Anyway, the sea trial went great, it jumps up on plane in three seconds? I donít know but it was fast. That 5.7 had lots of torque!

After we paid for it, we took it back to a bigger lake near our town and messed around with it for 45 minutes or so till we lost our daylight.

it has obviously less power at 7,000 ft, but it planed out a touch slower and would do about 40í mph (dial not gps) at 4000 ish rpm.

it might be over propped at our elevation. we are going to take it out this weekend and we will play with it some more.

Really wish i could post pics. Grrrrr.
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