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Old 06-04-2019, 04:44 PM
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I swear I have seen people on bow of cruiser style boats, cuddy cabin, sitting down going slow speed with legs and arms in the railing area go right past FWC in few places.I know its not a good idea but is it legal?
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Might be one of those "illegal" things where FWC overlooks it if the boat is going slow.

With that said I would never let someone ride on the bow like that. Bow rider, CC, dual console, sure, but a cruiser with a "bubble bow" I wouldn't.
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You just gotta rock that %itch up and down the coast.
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It is an interpreted ruling. In my area the Pa Fish commission rules, and the rule is vague enough that the popo can interpret it to their liking and issue a summons for it.
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Not a good idea in my book.
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Old 06-04-2019, 06:02 PM
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Nothing in the laws that specifically say's it's illegal. A big gray area.
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Locke N Load has the best answer so far
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Old 06-04-2019, 06:13 PM
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A friend of a friend died while sitting on a bow. Fell off, props chopped him up. I do not allow anyone on the bow when under way except my mate who is retrieving fenders and dock lines or putting them out when leaving or approaching dock.
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IN Maryland :
https://news.maryland.gov/dnr/2017/06/21/ride-inside/

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to a DNR police guy once and he basically said, he would stop and possibly ticket anyone standing or sitting on a bow that does not have a factory installed seat if the boat was in motion. The one exception was when performing docking and handling lines.
So, if there was a cruiser or Cuddy cabin or Walk around, its under the umbrella of wreckless boating.

I've seen DNR police basically pull people over to talk to them and give a verbal (not a written) warning. I"m sure if he finds something else (operating while intoxicated) it will open up to other things. Boat operators are always welcome to talk themselves into a violation.
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Here's a summary of recent law changes concerning bow riding in Florida.
https://www.flkeysnews.com/latest-ne...e87781432.html
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Old 06-04-2019, 06:42 PM
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As long as the boat has the railing around the perimeter of the bow.... it is legal. I see this scenario everyday on the intracoastal.
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Old 06-04-2019, 06:48 PM
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FYI, Ron Klepper had this law changed for his benefit. He was tired of getting stopped by "the man" for allowing people to ride on the bow of his boat.
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For what it is worth here is my experience with this situation. First, this was many years ago....maybe 1978. In the Everglades Park waters I was stopped by a Federal Park Ranger who threatened to cite me for letting a friend ride on the bow of the boat while in motion, He witnessed it while he approached. He said it was because my boat had no bow rail or forward seating. It would have been ok if there was either. The ranger let us go with just a warning but did say it was a federal law (at that time, maybe not now) and even showed the section to us in his copy of the regulations (2 inches thick).

My friend was up there while smoking because I told him it was too dangerous to do that in the cockpit with all the extra fuel cans around.
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Old 06-04-2019, 10:09 PM
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In MA I believe it's illegal for anyone to ride on a bow deck at any speed on boats under 20' and considered negligent operation if passengers do that an any boat while at cruise speed.
( Obviously not bow riders or other boat made for that purpose.)

massachusetts-boating-law.pdf
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would you let someone sit on the hood if your car ?

Its a crazy idea..get hit by a swell or wake and they are under your boat
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I've gotten boarded in NC for that exact situation. I was piloting my friend's cruiser at about 10 knots and he was sitting on the bow with his feet dangling just outside the rails when NC Wildlife officer came bombing up. He explained it was illegal to be underway with any part of a passenger outside the seating area of the boat. Since I was dead sober and didn't act like a jackwagon when he pulled us he let me go with a warning. Frankly, it was my fault not knowing the laws. I know on my boat (Malibu) I've had folks sitting on the rear sun pad while under way helping surfers. I chatted with the officer and he said technically that was illegal also. I see that scenario all the time for the surf boats.
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https://www.news4jax.com/video/mothe...ugustine-inlet

Not a good idea to let anyone ride with legs hanging over. And they will pull you over.
Riding up front, if there is seating it is legal. If just railing it will be up to the LEO at the time. Usually just a warning.
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In New Hampshire it is legal to ride on the bow but not hang arms or legs overboard. This is what we were taught by the Marine Patrol Officer instructor, (a state police officer) at the boater safety course
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Originally Posted by bailj View Post
In New Hampshire it is legal to ride on the bow but not hang arms or legs overboard. This is what we were taught by the Marine Patrol Officer instructor, (a state police officer) at the boater safety course

This is the way it is in FL as well.....you can sit in the bow if the legs are too the inside of the boat, they cannot be hanging over. Being pulled over is going to depend upon the boat, the railing and what is happening at the time the LEO sees you.
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