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Old 06-05-2019, 05:41 AM
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I was told by a Florida FWC officer that all pieces and parts of people have to be inside the gunnels when underway, and sitting on the gunnels with limbs over the rub rail was a violation. Even at 2 mph, if somebody is sitting on the gunnel in the bow area, and falls out of the boat there is no way to stop the props from turning before the person is at the stern.
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Old 06-05-2019, 05:44 AM
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well, it's about the country laws
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Old 06-05-2019, 05:56 AM
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Originally Posted by chillin the most florida View Post
I swear I have seen people on bow of cruiser style boats, cuddy cabin, sitting down going slow speed with legs and arms in the railing area go right past FWC in few places.I know its not a good idea but is it legal?
It did not used to be, but in the last year or two it became legal. It is stupid to ride there. No way to avoid contact by the boat and/or the prop(s).
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Old 06-05-2019, 07:07 AM
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Originally Posted by SeaCat22 View Post
Here's a summary of recent law changes concerning bow riding in Florida.
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It did not used to be, but in the last year or two it became legal. It is stupid to ride there. No way to avoid contact by the boat and/or the prop(s).
FLORIDA ONLY
Florida changed the "reckless operation" portion of the law in 2016 to exclude endangering your own passengers riding on the bow, gunwales, and transom.
The new law states you must endanger “another person outside the vessel.” in order to be stopped and cited.
Every state is different and anyone else needs to consult the regs for where they boat.
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Old 06-05-2019, 07:14 AM
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OH god, have activated the HT legal department again !!!!!

Legal or not, it is a mark of a very poor skipper. They might think it is fun to let the little kids ride on the bow with their legs hanging off the boat, but the possibility of them going in and getting chopped up negates the fun that they are having
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Old 06-05-2019, 07:20 AM
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MY boat, MY rules, sit your ass down in a seat and when we stop you may get up, NOT until....
Bodies really screw up my AL props and the blood stains my SS props.... Sit down....
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Old 06-05-2019, 07:30 AM
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I think Florida has the law right. Who is the government to interfere with natural selection?
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Old 06-05-2019, 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Lizard35 View Post
OH god, have activated the HT legal department again !!!!!
OP is in Florida and asked if it was legal, not if it was a good idea.

Originally Posted by chillin the most florida View Post
I know its not a good idea but is it legal?
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Old 06-05-2019, 08:13 AM
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How about sailboats?

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Old 06-05-2019, 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by RogueWaveFL View Post
FLORIDA ONLY
Florida changed the "reckless operation" portion of the law in 2016 to exclude endangering your own passengers riding on the bow, gunwales, and transom.
The new law states you must endanger “another person outside the vessel.” in order to be stopped and cited.
Every state is different and anyone else needs to consult the regs for where they boat.
^^^THIS

The USCG can cite you for unsafe operation if folks are sitting on the bow with their feet dangling. In our state hanging over the side is illegal at any time but you can stand or sit on the deck at the bow at no-wake speeds. Only if there are "manufacture-provided seating arrangements" is it allowed above no-wake speeds.
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Old 06-05-2019, 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Thalasso View Post
Nothing in the laws that specifically say's it's illegal. A big gray area.
You can't fix stupid anyway.
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Old 06-05-2019, 05:36 PM
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I think it's allowed on sailboats if they're just dropping a deuce in some local waterway. The cops are use to it & they figure there's no reasoning with a blow boater so why bother.
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Old 06-09-2019, 10:40 AM
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When I was 12 a friend’s dad had a Grady cuddy and I remember sitting on the bow legs dangling as he was pounding over ocean swells at speed.

At 12 I wasn’t scared too easily but that did it...


When I had a 26’ sailboat I’d stand on the bow hanging to the forestay underway while single handing at night. That was always neat. Slipping along silently at night listening to crickets on the islands is when you appreciate a sailboat.

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Old 06-09-2019, 10:54 AM
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As an ex Coastie (1974-1978) I can tell you that we would stop boats and warn them that riding on the bow with limbs hanging over was unsafe operation. We would give them a warning and they would usually fix it right away. If not or they gave us a hard time we would board them and give a full inspection of the vessel. State law is one thing, Federal law supersedes that.

BTW, all you need is to see a body that has fallen off the bow and been hit by the props, that should stop any question of riding like that.
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Old 06-09-2019, 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Lizard35 View Post
OH god, have activated the HT legal department again !!!!!

Legal or not, it is a mark of a very poor skipper. They might think it is fun to let the little kids ride on the bow with their legs hanging off the boat, but the possibility of them going in and getting chopped up negates the fun that they are having
its still against the law to ride with legs or any other part of your body outside the boat. And, you’re correct. Only someone ignorant would allow it.
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Old 06-09-2019, 01:23 PM
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Best friend growing up got 600 stitches in his legs after getting heave hoed over the front of the bow while his Father was underway. Kid spent most summers in food rehabs as his legs never really fully recovered but his upper body ballooned each winter.

It was sad to see him go through this.
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Old 06-09-2019, 01:24 PM
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Many years ago in my younger, stupider days, I can remember my brother and friends and I cruising full throttle down the Charles River with me sitting on the point of the bow, of our new, jointly purchased used boat. No railing, hanging onto the anchor cleat as we ran straight and made turns. I remember that, at the time, I thought it was really exhilarating. One of the stupider things we did but not the last.
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Old 06-21-2019, 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Thalasso View Post
Nothing in the laws that specifically say's it's illegal. A big gray area.
I don't know about that. One of my neighbor's daughters was doing just what the OP stated, hanging her legs over the bow and holding on to the bow rail, and the DNR Cops stopped him and gave him a ticket.
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Old 06-21-2019, 11:39 AM
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Speaking of hanging off the bow...go to 3:45 on this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ubq-...ature=youtu.be
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Old 06-21-2019, 12:56 PM
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Legal or not, it's one of the best ways to draw unwanted attention and an extra bit of scrutiny to your boat.
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