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Old 06-03-2019, 01:08 PM
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It does blow me away that the delta between the small screen and large screen that does the exact same thing is so ridiculous. When is someone going to just give us a dial/rotary control + black box that lets you pick your own monitor. Here is an example of water proof monitor prices today and these are only going to get better and cheaper over time. Obviously inside a shower is different that running around the ocean.

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It does blow me away that the delta between the small screen and large screen that does the exact same thing is so ridiculous. When is someone going to just give us a dial/rotary control + black box that lets you pick your own monitor. Here is an example of water proof monitor prices today and these are only going to get better and cheaper over time. Obviously inside a shower is different that running around the ocean.

https://www.amazon.com/Soulaca-Frame...01N58KOPS?th=1
Try viewing that outside.
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its all about the NITS. the marine versions are daylight visible while outside.. Even the daylight outdoor televisions are super expensive.
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Ok, I'll give you that so here is a 32" full sun:
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Because we continue to pay it. At the point at which people stop paying it, it will change.

Ask Sea Doo...any wonder why they all of the sudden have a new line of $5-6000 jet ski's?
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Ok, I'll give you that so here is a 32" full sun: https://www.amazon.com/SunbriteTV-Ou.../dp/B06X41HYZ1
That one says 700 nits in one place and 1000 nits in another. I'd be wary. The 1000 nit output is the same as most of the stuff I designed and put into production when I worked for Raymarine and Techsonic, and it would be fine for outdoor direct sunlight. I would also be wary of the weather resistance. It's not going to pass IP66 / IP67 / IP69k. Granted I doubt that most of the new brand name units will either.

freedbaby got it correct. The MLO on a production 12" display is far far less than online discount pricing. Not only are boat owners willing to pay it, but boat owners believe price equates to quality and feature set. When I was in the industry, product management did a lot of in house studies on this. "High end" products that were expensive were more desirable than a "low cost" product, while the feature sets were very similar, if not the same. IE the original A65 put into production in 2005, vs the same time frame C70 at 2x the A65 price.

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Luxury item = luxury cost
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Why is a 37" to 42" TV less than $250?
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Because it has the term MARINE in front of it


boat wash, boat cordage, marine gas treatment. Itís marketing for charge them more money


just be glad ďaviationĒ isnít in front of it




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Originally Posted by aeadams View Post
Ok, I'll give you that so here is a 32" full sun: https://www.amazon.com/SunbriteTV-Ou.../dp/B06X41HYZ1
i think you just answered your own question...a regular 32Ē TV is like $200, this sunlight one you show is $3200.
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People are paying is really the only explanation. The 16Ē screens are insanely priced, and thereís no way the screen costs are that high when the internals are basically identical to 7Ē models.
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Originally Posted by baitdragger View Post
Because it has the term MARINE in front of it


boat wash, boat cordage, marine gas treatment. Itís marketing for charge them more money


just be glad ďaviationĒ isnít in front of it




Or in the case of West Marine - behind it......................
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I feel your pain. I talked to someone at the sandbar who paid 10k for a 24Ē.
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Furuno makes the black box setup your asking for in their TZ Touch line.
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Old 06-03-2019, 05:29 PM
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I am in the industry and deal with this almost daily.
The manufacturers must remain competitive on the price or they will see a significant drop off in sales. They must also maintain the quality and robust design to survive in an offshore environment.
The back lighting required to display a readable image in sunlight and glare is significant. Prior to LED, florescent lighting was used. The power supplies required developed massive heat which had to be extracted without losing watertight (IP6x rating) integrity. The reduced heat signature of LED's is offset by higher engineering costs for the redesigns as well as employing longer lasting (read not Chinese crap) LED's. Add the ability to dim to almost zero for night running/fishing for an additional cost.
With today's offshore boats running over 50 knots in decent seas, the acceleration and deceleration experienced on the helm would destroy a television designed to hang on a wall or stand on a dresser. Those design criteria require additional engineering and testing.
Marine electronics manufacturers do not manufacture the glass displays. They are limited by the manufacturers of the glass. Getting tooling set up for a small run (5,000 units) versus iPhones (a few million pieces) is the same initial investment which cannot be amortized over as many units.
Add all that together with a production run of a few thousand pieces to recover the initial investments and you have the prices shown as MSRP.
So, with all that said, you do not have to buy the larger screens. You can survive with the smaller screens, maybe even monochrome, should you be able to find a manufacturer that makes one.
As previously mentioned, the market id driven by demand. It is pure capitalism functioning as only it can; supply and demand.
The manufacturers welcome feedback on their products. Send them a note or letter telling them the features you'd like to see on their equipment. If enough requests are received, they will adjust. (When GPS first hit the market, there was no way to navigate to loran coordinates using GPS signals. Enough requests and that feature was added.)
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buzzcut nailed it. IMO if you want a "bigger screen" you should consider doing 2 units. Most folks fish splits anyway. GPS and bottom, or bottom and radar, etc. I have a unit dedicated to radar that also can do sonar and gps. A main unit for sonar and GPS. And when the older unit (radar) dies, I'll add another. Lots of benefits besides costs. Redundancy and multi-functionality. The cost of 2 Garmin 1042s is less than a 16" or larger single unit, if you consider the other factors like redundancy.
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Can I plug a 1kw dual channel CHIRP transducer, side-scan/down-scan transducer, larger sonar module, radar, autopilot, XM weather, FLIR, etc. into that TV you posted?
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Originally Posted by aeadams View Post
It does blow me away that the delta between the small screen and large screen that does the exact same thing is so ridiculous. When is someone going to just give us a dial/rotary control + black box that lets you pick your own monitor. Here is an example of water proof monitor prices today and these are only going to get better and cheaper over time. Obviously inside a shower is different that running around the ocean.

https://www.amazon.com/Soulaca-Frame...01N58KOPS?th=1
same could be said for many things...
phones
computers
etc

bigger screen, more storage space, you pay $$$$$ even though it only costs the manufacturer a few bucks more

there are black box options and other marine computers that let you pick your own monitor etc
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There was an article in a recent Saltwater Sportsman issue on current MFDs. One of the takeaways I got was that it was significantly cheaper to buy 2 smaller screens vs. 1 big one. Cant recall the reason at the moment - I'll try to find it and post it up
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I recently did a large install, 2) 8610ís, 2) 8622ís, and an 8624.
The 22ís and 24ís donít have a card reader yet the 10ís do. The 24 is $8,000 more. I donít get it either.
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