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Old 06-01-2019, 10:57 AM
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Cool albemarle 285 Volvo TAMD 41P's jackshafts worth 20k?

I'm looking at a 1999 285 with the 41 p's and jackshafts. I've never owned a outdrive boat but can work on anything although its not what I want to do all the time. The currunt owner of the boat is original owner and always kept dry stored. He says never an issue with the setup. Although the boat need alot of TLC and some minor mechanical work it seems to run good. It has air conditioning but no generator so I want to put an inverter in but I dont know whats the best option for that? Boat has 1500 hours and is very solid boat. Anybody have experience on theses vessels?
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Old 06-01-2019, 11:03 AM
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I looked up a couple Albemarle's, a 2003 for $76K with diesels.
If you can get it for $20K with those hours, I would not hesitate.
And, if you're looking for a generator, it better be a diesel, which are usually more $$$
How many house batteries? and what is charging them? How large an inverter and more importantly, why do you need an inverter?
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Old 06-01-2019, 11:12 AM
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It has one 8D house battery and 2 engine batterys. the alternators charge the whole system. I want an inverter to run A/C so I dont have to buy a Generator which yes is $$$$.
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What does the AC draw and how long do you plan to be able to run it?
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Old 06-01-2019, 11:51 AM
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It draws 450 watts at start up and 55 watts running. I'd like to run it for two day trips.
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If it was truly always dry stored ( out of the water) it should have Volvo DP-E duo-prop drives and those alone are getting tougher to come by and may still be available new....and if so ....they are well over 10K each....then add the transom shields , trim pumps and cylinders....the drives are very heavy duty....

....My ‘98 still stays in the water year round...since new....and only recently replaced shields and drives due to cosmetic electrolysis pitting

I wouldn’t worry about the actual hull....I’ve never heard of an issue w/ them....they are built like tanks.....

41-PA’s are great little engines in my opinion ....single turbo w/ no supercharger...no computers...190hp...can be a little smokey at start up....just that VP parts are made of gold and painted green.....$$$....older technology but they have a good track record w/ me

I will tell you that I have a 98 Albe and just had an issue where I am looking at replacing both fuel tanks which means cutting for access.


I’ve owned her since 2002 and haven’t let her go....that should tell you what I think about them.
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Old 06-01-2019, 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by captphiljr View Post
It draws 450 watts at start up and 55 watts running. I'd like to run it for two day trips.
Seem like low figures for an AC unit. Either way you will need more house battery than you have. Inverters are simple enough, but getting enough battery and charging can be an issue
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Old 06-05-2019, 03:25 AM
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I would jump on that deal. If you donít let me know I been eyeing those 28s for a year now waiting for the right deal to come along.
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Youíre not going to get two days of AC use out of an inverter set up without adding a crazy battery set up.

I canít imagine you have the draw correct on the AC. Iíve never heard of anything that low.
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Old 06-05-2019, 05:25 AM
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Youíre not going to get two days of AC use out of an inverter set up without adding a crazy battery set up.

I canít imagine you have the draw correct on the AC. Iíve never heard of anything that low.
The unit draws 4.6 amps that equals 55 Watts. I know I'm not going to get two days without the battery being charged. they will be hooked up to the charging system on the boat I don't know if they will be able to maintain enough voltage for 2 days or not but I do know people who run them this way with no issues.
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Old 06-05-2019, 05:28 AM
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Great boat, but you will be disappointed with the IO decision years from now, never knew one knowledgeable fisherman that ran their boat wished for an IO.... I'd pass it up.
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Old 06-05-2019, 05:37 AM
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if you look hard enough you should be able to find one with inboard yanmars for that same price. Unless the 285 has a different layout than the boats with twin inboards
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Most of those who say you’ll be disappointed w/ an Albe w/ outdrives have never owned one ...or never owned one w/ Volvo DP-E drives like the one I believe you’re looking at. Many repeat the babble of all outdrives boats are shit but have no first hand experience.The duo-props are faster, more efficient and more maneuverable around close quarters than inboards. Thrust is directed straight , not angled down. Yes, they do take more maintenance. But telling you you’ll regret them is one opinion ....and everyone has one....and they’re not all the same.

Strong statement to tell you you’ll be disappointed w/ that purchase ....owned mine since 2002....VERY happy w/ the boat...economical , overbuilt, older non-computer based diesels.....simple to work on. .....handles well when seas get ugly....handles better than some larger boats I’ve been on....outdrives are about like outboards hanging on a transom mount boat as far as fishing around

This opinion is from a guy who OWNS one.
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Originally Posted by highrisk98 View Post
Most of those who say youíll be disappointed w/ an Albe w/ outdrives have never owned one ...or never owned one w/ Volvo DP-E drives like the one I believe youíre looking at. Many repeat the babble of all outdrives boats are shit but have no first hand experience.The duo-props are faster, more efficient and more maneuverable around close quarters than inboards. Thrust is directed straight , not angled down. Yes, they do take more maintenance. But telling you youíll regret them is one opinion ....and everyone has one....and theyíre not all the same.

Strong statement to tell you youíll be disappointed w/ that purchase ....owned mine since 2002....VERY happy w/ the boat...economical , overbuilt, older non-computer based diesels.....simple to work on. .....handles well when seas get ugly....handles better than some larger boats Iíve been on....outdrives are about like outboards hanging on a transom mount boat as far as fishing around

This opinion is from a guy who OWNS one.
This one has the 290 DP drives. I hear ya about the opinions and speculation... I try to take the advice of people with first hand experience. Thanks for your first hand opinion
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Originally Posted by captphiljr View Post
The unit draws 4.6 amps that equals 55 Watts. I know I'm not going to get two days without the battery being charged. they will be hooked up to the charging system on the boat I don't know if they will be able to maintain enough voltage for 2 days or not but I do know people who run them this way with no issues.
5 amp draw AC is equal to 55 AMPS DC, not watts. AC will kill a battery bank in no time through an inverter.
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Certainly..while I listen to most all......First hand experience is what I look for also.

...Ultimately of course it’s your call, inboard boat’s don’t take the annual fluid change I do on the drives....and 1 shaft collar zinc per shaft will be less cost than the outdrive and transom shield zincs will be to replace (2 vs. 4 zincs)....the SS duo props are about 1200.00 a set last time I noticed....I have never had to replace the C-4’s I mounted in 2002....and the aluminum props they replaced had battle scars....the drive boots I inspect and replace periodically...usually every 3 or so years....many will say every year or two ....this has worked for me since 2002....but I’m inspecting every 6 months or so myself....

If you ever dealing w/ shallow water whether fishing or sandbar visits.....being able to trim the drives up is a plus.....can’t do that w/ inboards.....

if you have any other questions you can PM me if I can be of help...
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5 amp draw AC is equal to 55 AMPS DC, not watts. AC will kill a battery bank in no time through an inverter.
Ok well I did a calculator online did not ask for AC or DC simple voltage. I guess I should have put in hundred twenty volts...
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41-PA’s are great little engines in my opinion ....single turbo w/ no supercharger...no computers



If they are in fact 41 PA's - they should be 200 HP each. They are very simple and good little engines. If they are in the right shape, very little smoke throughout any of the RPM ranges. In my opinion, there are no CHEAP diesel parts but Volvo certainly likes their parts more than others. They can be unusually expensive.

You'll want those engines to reach 3900 @ full load and 3950 would be better. Don't trust the boat tachs - use a infrared on the crank pulley.

They are notorious for eating head gaskets, and take if from me (i just did both mine) it's a costly repair even if you do it yourself. Both my head gaskets starting leaking @ around 1700 hours. I pulled the heads, had them magnflux'd, valve jobs, and injectors rebuild. All new gaskets going back together + machine shop bill = $3k each side. Figure on $5k - $6k EACH if you pay someone to do it all.
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I owned a 29 Sea Vee with a single Volvo Jackshafted to a DP-E drive. The boat was nice when running and very efficient. Maybe my boat was abused prior to me but I won't ever own another Volvo again or an outdrive. Man she raised fish like crazy though. I owned it for about 2 years by memory, replaced the U -joints in the jackshaft yearly, I had the Kad44p in it which is highly dependent on the supercharger at speeds I highspeed troll at and it ate belts like crazy, finally straw for me was breaking one of the joints to the outdrive housing in bad weather at the end of a tournament day in rough seas leaving me to get towed in from 15 miles out. Its was an awesome little boat but not for the kind of fishing i did obviously. The only Volvo guy in town works on Ribs that come in on ships and was always on a tight timeframe with them so I was always low on the list for repairs and I did most things I could myself. I missed all of a dolphin season one year and when it broke in the next winter I sold it so I didn't miss another season. It wasn't a lack of maintenance on my part as I have 2000 plus hours on outboards since with out being towed in and only came in on a single motor once due to a catastrophic failure. That boat felt like it was always something.
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I had the Kad44p in it which is highly dependent on the supercharger at speeds I highspeed troll at and it ate belts like crazy

OP - you definitely want to make sure which engines you are looking at :

KAD - Supercharger + Turbo
TAMD - TURBO

2 totally different animals. The TAMD 41 P or 41 PA are very simple mechanical turbo charged diesels - rebuildable sleeved blocks - very reliable - and very simple to work on.

The KAD series relies on a supercharger at low speeds because the turbo doesn't build boost until around 2500 RPM. Much more complex design.
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