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Outboard disaster (mechanic loses my outboard)

Old 05-30-2019, 05:08 AM
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Angry Outboard disaster (mechanic loses my outboard)

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I spent the entire winter searching for a replacement Yamaha 9.9hp kicker for my sailboat. After a long search, I traveled four hours away to grab a 1992 Yamaha 9.9hp four stroke long shaft with electric start and a tiller. It was in mint shape... just gorgeous.


I dropped the outboard off at the local boat mechanic shop near my boat slip two weeks ago. Told him to take the old one off, and put the new one on. Long horrible story short: his new inexperienced employee failed to tighten the motor to my mount. The outboard is now under 30 feet of water somewhere between the marina's sling and my slip. I have photos to prove the mechanic shops negligence, and he quickly acknowledged the error and said he's going to "make it right."


The milk is spilled, and I have to move on, rather than crying. Last night the mechanic called and said he couldn't find a Yamaha of similar kind and quality. He offered me a used Mercury 9.9, but I turned it down. I want a Yamaha. Well, I advised him that he is obviously going to have to pay me off.


So here is my question: What should I accept? 1) The value of a similar outboard of the kind and quality in the local marketplace (like a Yamaha short shaft four stroke with remote controls), 2) Actual Cash Value (insurance lingo for "you're taking a big loss"), or 3) Whatever he offers to pay?


I'm thinking $1500, as that's what they honestly cost. The only one I found other than the one I bought sold for $1400, but was not nearly as nice as the motor at the bottom of the lake. My friends are telling me the guy is a cheapskate and that he knows he can screw people because he's the only game in town. I have no trouble with a scorched earth policy here, as I wouldn't let this shop wax my bumpers.
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Old 05-30-2019, 05:12 AM
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Whatever you paid for it should be what he compensates you.
He was honest, it was both a mistake and an accident. I'm betting you paid an honest dollar for it, karma would say take an honest dollar for it.
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Old 05-30-2019, 05:25 AM
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Accept the amount that will pay for a comparable motor,the installation cost and your road trip.Don't get greedy and I hope you took some pictures in case they decide to not do anything.
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Old 05-30-2019, 05:27 AM
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Agreed. What did you pay for the mint 1992 outboard?
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Old 05-30-2019, 05:34 AM
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Shit happens. If he’s the only game in town I wouldn’t piss him off too much as you will probably need him at some point. I think he’s being fair and honestly I would have accepted the Merc. They got some power.
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Old 05-30-2019, 05:40 AM
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You found a mint outboard for a good price. Is that repeatable? Maybe, maybe not.
I would look for a "fair market comparable" replacement outboard. Run the price by the owner of the shop to be certain he is agreeable. Communication is key. Keep an open dialogue with the owner. It really is hard to put a $$ on that item as there are so many variables. Sorry this happened to you. Reminds me of another thread I read yesterday on THT about his mechanic neglected to put hose clamps on a new fuel line. There is certainly a lack of striving for excellence in the service community at large.
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Old 05-30-2019, 05:47 AM
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Originally Posted by kylemac1969 View Post


He offered me a used Mercury 9.9, but I turned it down. I want a Yamaha.

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I think he offered you a fair deal. You searched high and low for a Yamaha and couldn't find one. The saying is Shat in one hand and want in the other. Take the mercury, and have him install it for free. See what the price difference is and see if he will add cash to the deal.

If not take what you paid for it and move on.
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Old 05-30-2019, 05:52 AM
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Keep in mind that mercury is really a Tohatsu. Not a bad motor if I’m understanding correctly
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Old 05-30-2019, 05:54 AM
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What you paid for it, that simple.

Buy a nice new 4 stroke fuel injected and don't look back:
http://www.suzukimarine.com/~/media/...Info-View1.pdf
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Old 05-30-2019, 05:56 AM
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So, what are the odds you could locate and retrieve said outboard ? Do they know approximately where it fell off the boat? If so, maybe ask the guy to pay a diver to find it. It's only freshwater and seems like if you could retrieve it based on your assessment of mint quality, then it might be worth a shot?
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Old 05-30-2019, 05:57 AM
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i'd try to find a comparable one somewhere in the USA that can be shipped to you, find out cost, including shipping, and start there

if it was an honest mistake, he has been good to you, and you will want to do business with him in the future, i'd settle somewhere between what i paid and the replacement or what i paid plus him overhauling the replacement at no cost

many would've retrieved the outboard ASAP and tried to revive it. im guessing a 1992 9.9 is not a complex motor with computers, ecu, etc.

also many attach a safety from the motor to the boat to help prevent situations like this, something i'd consider for the future.
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After you get what you want, hire a diver to find the other o/b. Its been in freshwater and not running so a simple flush might be needed.
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Old 05-30-2019, 06:00 AM
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go look for the Yamaha that went swimming , pull it out of the water and pickle it .

salt or fresh water lake ? , if fresh water just find it and get it running.

surely it cant be that hard to find a diver that will go on the path that it traveled and bring it to the surface ?.
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Old 05-30-2019, 06:08 AM
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Hire a diver, find the motor, have the mechanic get it running, and get him to provide (in writing) a 1-2 year warranty/service/repair program.
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Old 05-30-2019, 06:10 AM
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Let's see, playing devils advocate. Motor is a portable equipment. Granted you operated the boat, you have failed to safety check the mounting prior to departure and additionaly to protect the portable motor with tether line.

Play smart, make nice and move on...
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The actual cash value will be the NEW purchase price minus depreciation. You didn't buy new, so in this case the actual cash value would be pretty much the purchase price. Your time spent searching for the motor isn't really a factor here. Tell him what you paid, show him a copy of a check or whatever you have to prove it, then ask for that amount. If you paid for them to do the install, ask for that money back or for them to do the installation free of charge when you find what you want again.

I would not look at this as an opportunity to try and come out ahead or be compensated for your time.
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Old 05-30-2019, 06:17 AM
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You are mistaken, and I was maybe not clear. The outboard was placed on the boat. The boat was placed into sling and towed to slip. I was not there at the time, and was only able to prove his negligence because friends snapped a photo of my boat sitting in sling with outboard clearly attached. Fuel line wasn't, nor were electric cables.

It was like having him change the oil, and him not putting oil it, or putting on tire, but forgetting to put on the lug nuts.
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Old 05-30-2019, 06:21 AM
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Let him put the Mercury on and go for a test run. If you like how it runs, I'd just take it and roll the dice. You really don't know if the Yamaha would have been worlds better than the Mercury anyway.
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Originally Posted by kylemac1969 View Post
You are mistaken, and I was maybe not clear. The outboard was placed on the boat. The boat was placed into sling and towed to slip. I was not there at the time, and was only able to prove his negligence because friends snapped a photo of my boat sitting in sling with outboard clearly attached. Fuel line wasn't, nor were electric cables.

It was like having him change the oil, and him not putting oil it, or putting on tire, but forgetting to put on the lug nuts.
Agree, he owes you a motor or compensation
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