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Old 06-01-2019, 08:41 AM
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Folks,

There were a lot of opinions, and I must admit, opinions are like brown suits: Everyone should have one.

That said, I was rather amazed how many posters thought I should just eat the loss and move on with a lesson learned. Others thought I should hold the marine mechanic's shop accountable and make them pay. And, when it came to paying, some thought I should just accept what they believed the outboard was worth ($400 or so) because it was a 1992.

So the marine mechanic and I met today. I told him I'd had a week to accept the loss and get over my anger. I also told him I wasn't going to gouge him by making him pay for my motor, as well as the money I spent on gas to get it. Those are separate issues, and I wanted "to be made whole." Now then, being made whole means getting back what I paid, as well as what it will take to purchase one of the same make, quality and vintage.

In the end, I was successful. I got exactly what I wanted because we agreed on comparable prices for the same motor in the region. And, I was fair and threw out the highs and lows and took the middle.

Let me say it again: I got exactly what I wanted.

Ah, it's good to be a sailboat owner... For all those who decided to insult someone they didn't even know, or call him a snowflake, I can only say it's going to be a great summer. I'll be on my boat while you motor by with your meth-addicted skank hos. And, I'll be laughing at you.

For those who encouraged me to stick to my guns, I thank you. In the end, "Right" triumphed over "Stupidity." I held the guy accountable and made him pay up without getting an insurance company involved. Winning!
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Old 06-01-2019, 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by kylemac1969 View Post
Ah, it's good to be a sailboat owner... For all those who decided to insult someone they didn't even know, or call him a snowflake, I can only say it's going to be a great summer. I'll be on my boat while you motor by with your meth-addicted skank hos. And, I'll be laughing at you.
Haven't read anything but the first and last post in this thread but that kind of insulting parting shot personifies the reason most powerboaters look with such disdain on sailboaters.

At least our skank hos shave their armpits and legs!
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Old 06-01-2019, 08:57 AM
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You ask for people opinions. You get them and then get all pissed off because you didn't agree with the consensus. Then you revert to basically name calling. Did you happen to have an argument with your son's teacher recently. It's us laughing at you. And what's wrong with skank hos?
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Old 06-01-2019, 09:12 AM
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Blow boaters will be blow boaters...
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Old 06-01-2019, 10:44 AM
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Sounds like the guy is too cheap to hire a diver to find out.
Your you could look at the boat and see whats there ?

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Old 06-01-2019, 10:53 AM
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Okay, here's the deal: The marina put the boat in the sling and launched the boat at 4:30 p.m. I was NOT there.

The marina then towed the boat to my slip.

That said, I originally believed the motor was stolen in the 90 minutes I was not there...

Spoke to harbor master, who said he wanted to put the boat in at 11:30 a.m., and saw someone he didn't know working on the boat. He confronted the guy, who said he was the businesses' new employee. Well, he is now their former employee.
Perhaps he was getting ready to steal it , then came back ?

Assuming the Merc is in good shape I would take it , its a very fair offer .
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Old 06-01-2019, 11:34 AM
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Having read this thread, I'm not sure what the OP wants? He's asked for opinions and received them, but seems to not like the opinions he receiving. So what is it he wants? Really, the only opinion that matters is his and he seems to have already made up his mind.
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Old 06-01-2019, 12:05 PM
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If you're happy, I'm happy. Happy, for you, happy for the marina, happy for the meth hoes. I'm going to ask Alexa to play "Sailing" by Christopher Cross I'm so happy.
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Old 06-01-2019, 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by kylemac1969 View Post
Folks,

There were a lot of opinions, and I must admit, opinions are like brown suits: Everyone should have one.

That said, I was rather amazed how many posters thought I should just eat the loss and move on with a lesson learned. Others thought I should hold the marine mechanic's shop accountable and make them pay. And, when it came to paying, some thought I should just accept what they believed the outboard was worth ($400 or so) because it was a 1992.

So the marine mechanic and I met today. I told him I'd had a week to accept the loss and get over my anger. I also told him I wasn't going to gouge him by making him pay for my motor, as well as the money I spent on gas to get it. Those are separate issues, and I wanted "to be made whole." Now then, being made whole means getting back what I paid, as well as what it will take to purchase one of the same make, quality and vintage.

In the end, I was successful. I got exactly what I wanted because we agreed on comparable prices for the same motor in the region. And, I was fair and threw out the highs and lows and took the middle.

Let me say it again: I got exactly what I wanted.

Ah, it's good to be a sailboat owner... For all those who decided to insult someone they didn't even know, or call him a snowflake, I can only say it's going to be a great summer. I'll be on my boat while you motor by with your meth-addicted skank hos. And, I'll be laughing at you.

For those who encouraged me to stick to my guns, I thank you. In the end, "Right" triumphed over "Stupidity." I held the guy accountable and made him pay up without getting an insurance company involved. Winning!
No it does not.

You got what you wanted. You got more than you were entitled.

If you are happy who amongst us can be unhappy?
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The reason’s for not being able to send a diver in to get it are hilarious. Flooding and electrocution are you kidding me. Than there’s the “Liquidated Damages”.
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Old 06-01-2019, 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Chpsk8 View Post
Whatever you paid for it should be what he compensates you.
He was honest, it was both a mistake and an accident. I'm betting you paid an honest dollar for it, karma would say take an honest dollar for it.
I think he can only get what it is supposedly worth even if you took it to court.
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Haven't read anything but the first and last post in this thread but that kind of insulting parting shot personifies the reason most powerboaters look with such disdain on sailboaters.

At least our skank hos shave their armpits and legs!
THT should start charging just one dollar to sign up, no more sailboaters
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Old 06-01-2019, 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by kylemac1969 View Post

Ah, it's good to be a sailboat owner... For all those who decided to insult someone they didn't even know, or call him a snowflake, I can only say it's going to be a great summer. I'll be on my boat while you motor by with your meth-addicted skank hos. And, I'll be laughing at you.
I glad you got a fair deal and agreed with most of what you said . I have many good friends that are sail boaters . But if any of them ever call my Girl that , just say it would not be a good thing . But they have more class then you will ever have . You give them a bad name . Now get out of my face .
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Old 06-01-2019, 07:42 PM
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Hey OP, did I call it or what?
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Old 06-01-2019, 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by kylemac1969 View Post
There is a perfectly good reason I haven't told anyone how much I paid. It's none of your business. And I agree with another poster, what if I got the motor for free? Should I accept nothing because I got it as a gift? Of course not.

And, I'm no snowflake. A snowflake would give in and take what he or she is given. I don't. When I led a squad in the Army, I quickly learned that you are responsible for those in your care. And, you are also responsible when they screw up. This mechanic is responsible for hiring unqualified people and not supervising them.

With that in mind, I have scoured craigslist in my state and Wisconsin. All comparable motors of make, HP and vintage are selling in the $900-$1400 range. This is not opinion. It's fact.

The owner and I spoke last night. He sees what the outboards going for in the region, which is why I think he offered me a Mercury... which he also sells. I won't take a short shaft, because I need a long shaft. I don't want a Yamaha with a remote control, because that's what I had. I want electric start, not a pull start.

I know what I paid, and if offered that amount, I might take it, plus a little more for liquidated damages. However, and this is important, I have to use that money to find another outboard of my liking. If I get half that amount, I am losing money because I'm going to spend more to get what I had a week ago.

Another fact is that several people who own boats in the marina have approached me and requested that I stand firm. The call this owner "$1000 _____" (I'm not saying his name). The nickname is because every time he screws up, it costs someone $1000. A good friend of mine who works on boats in the marina says the guy hires worthless employees for $10 per hour and they don't care about someone else's boat. They're reckless and do not take precautions... which is why my outboard is sitting next to Davy Jones' locker.

I apologize if I offended anyone's delicate sensibilities. I apologize if my sailboat isn't as worth as much as your boats. But that doesn't mean I should take less, or treat this mechanic any different that I would treat anyone else who damaged and lost my property.
If friends told you the guy was a hack, why did you bring your boat there? Or are you going to tell us that you found out after the fact? If i were you I'd settle or take him to small claims court. And the judge will award you what you paid for the Yammie, no more including time spent looking for another one. Why should the owner compensate you for looking for a replacement? Can you prove it?
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There is a lot of stupidity in this thread. Makes me shake my head at the sheer lunacy of some folks

OP, glad you got what you are happy with. Saying that, just because you don’t agree with someone doesn’t mean you have to stoop to low levels and make disparaging comments about people. Be better than that
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Old 06-01-2019, 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by kylemac1969 View Post

Now then, being made whole means getting back what I paid, as well as what it will take to purchase one of the same make, quality and vintage.
Vintage? Are you talking about wine or a boat motor or is this the new terminology that sailboaters use. And "winning"?? Ok....Glad it worked out for ya.


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There is a lot of stupidity in this thread. Makes me shake my head at the sheer lunacy of some folks

OP, glad you got what you are happy with. Saying that, just because you don’t agree with someone doesn’t mean you have to stoop to low levels and make disparaging comments about people. Be better than that
Yes, "Be Best" LOL
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Originally Posted by kylemac1969 View Post
Folks,

There were a lot of opinions, and I must admit, opinions are like brown suits: Everyone should have one.

That said, I was rather amazed how many posters thought I should just eat the loss and move on with a lesson learned. Others thought I should hold the marine mechanic's shop accountable and make them pay. And, when it came to paying, some thought I should just accept what they believed the outboard was worth ($400 or so) because it was a 1992.

So the marine mechanic and I met today. I told him I'd had a week to accept the loss and get over my anger. I also told him I wasn't going to gouge him by making him pay for my motor, as well as the money I spent on gas to get it. Those are separate issues, and I wanted "to be made whole." Now then, being made whole means getting back what I paid, as well as what it will take to purchase one of the same make, quality and vintage.

In the end, I was successful. I got exactly what I wanted because we agreed on comparable prices for the same motor in the region. And, I was fair and threw out the highs and lows and took the middle.

Let me say it again: I got exactly what I wanted.

Ah, it's good to be a sailboat owner... For all those who decided to insult someone they didn't even know, or call him a snowflake, I can only say it's going to be a great summer. I'll be on my boat while you motor by with your meth-addicted skank hos. And, I'll be laughing at you.

For those who encouraged me to stick to my guns, I thank you. In the end, "Right" triumphed over "Stupidity." I held the guy accountable and made him pay up without getting an insurance company involved. Winning!
Good for you, Ace. Is being a primma donna a prerequisite to owning a sailboat or is the attitude acquired chasing the breeze? Are you llike most breeze chasers always looking for a free tieup, expecting others to take your trash for free & other handouts?
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