Go Back  The Hull Truth - Boating and Fishing Forum > BOATING FORUMS > The Boating Forum
Reload this Page >

Outboard disaster (mechanic loses my outboard)

Notices
Like Tree118Likes

Outboard disaster (mechanic loses my outboard)

Old 05-30-2019, 08:09 AM
  #41  
Admirals Club Admiral's Club Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Texas
Posts: 5,400
Default

Owed what you paid for it, plus install. This time around ask him to add a strap to the motor.
Jeepman is offline  
Old 05-30-2019, 08:34 AM
  #42  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Land down under
Posts: 9,889
Default

Originally Posted by Jkcam View Post
You're still not clear. Who was operating the boat when the motor took a swim?
That needs to be known. Makes a world of difference as to who is responsible.

People only say what they want the audience to know.

I have a hunch. Could be wrong however.
alloyboy is offline  
Old 05-30-2019, 08:42 AM
  #43  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 1,405
Default

Can't one of them fancy bass boats with side 8-D scan sonar etc locate the motor on the bottom easily, given a search path? Mark it with a floaty, send a driver down with a cable and hook, winch it up.
CruiseToFish is offline  
Old 05-30-2019, 08:52 AM
  #44  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Middle Sound, NC
Posts: 7,576
Default

Some of this does not sound right.

Why would boat be splashed with motor rigging not finished? Usually, finish the job, then splash. More work to tow it to its slip than to use the motor.

Hang a little motor on a bracket, first thing you do is snug the clamp screws.

Nothing in splashing a boat with a travel lift should really shake the boat enough to shake off a motor. Same with towing to a slip.

Who ever was towing the boat would have a pretty good idea where the motor dropped. Should not be a mystery.

Marina owner would likely rather pay a diver a few hundred $ to get the motor than give away an equivalent motor worth like $1500. It costs nearly nothing to unsink one of these.

I think someone ran off with the pretty, but elderly engine. Marina owner does not want to send a diver because he knows it is not there.

Just thinking aloud...
Rico2 and Cpfitness like this.
Corndog38 is offline  
Old 05-30-2019, 09:00 AM
  #45  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Land down under
Posts: 9,889
Default

Originally Posted by tommyjones View Post
You are due exactly what you paid for the motor and nothing more.

i would check out the Merc and take either that or cash
Maybe not in a court of law. The law typically makes one whole. Awards a judgement as to the damages suffered. Losing a $500 motor that one paid $1000 for usually results in a judgement of $500.
alloyboy is offline  
Old 05-30-2019, 09:49 AM
  #46  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Southold, New York
Posts: 660
Default

Inconvenience, yes, but certainly not a "disaster" unless one lives in a snowflake world.
White Bear is offline  
Old 05-30-2019, 09:51 AM
  #47  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Houston, Texas
Posts: 973
Default

Just take him up on the Merc, he could have been a dick and not offered anything or blamed it on the used motor. Honestly I can’t see how one used kicker OB is better than the other.
RUFcaptain is offline  
Old 05-30-2019, 10:12 AM
  #48  
Admirals Club Admiral's Club Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Huntersville, NC
Posts: 787
Default

If that Merc is actually a tohatsu, I'd take that deal in a THT minute.
Blowboaters and their "Disasters".
Lunchmoney is offline  
Old 05-30-2019, 10:35 AM
  #49  
Admirals Club Admiral's Club Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Tampa, FL
Posts: 2,094
Default

Originally Posted by tommyjones View Post
You are due exactly what you paid for the motor and nothing more.

i would check out the Merc and take either that or cash
Originally Posted by HighTechRedneck View Post
I would say you are owed thr price you paid for the motor and nothing more. Would be nice if he will mount the replacement at no charge.

Why would what he paid for the motor have any relevance in what it's worth?

If he was gifted the motor would that mean he was due no compensation? If he had overpaid by a ton would he be owed the ridiculous amount he paid?

Any compensation should be based on reasonable replacement cost
RLC2020 likes this.
WalkingTheDocks is offline  
Old 05-30-2019, 10:54 AM
  #50  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: SE Fla
Posts: 3,675
Default

2016 9.9 down here listed today for 1600$
wetneck is offline  
Old 05-30-2019, 11:00 AM
  #51  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: SE Fla
Posts: 3,675
Default

wetneck is offline  
Old 05-30-2019, 11:09 AM
  #52  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Land down under
Posts: 9,889
Default

Originally Posted by White Bear View Post
Inconvenience, yes, but certainly not a "disaster" unless one lives in a snowflake millennial world.
Fixed it for you. You are welcome.

Ever noticed that everyone is "devastated" these days by anything and everything?

I stumbled while walking down to the dock yesterday. I was devastated. Now waiting for my government relief check.
BOSBoatMan likes this.
alloyboy is offline  
Old 05-30-2019, 11:09 AM
  #53  
Admirals Club Admiral's Club Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 1,148
Default

you said it was a 1992 Yamaha four stroke right? that thing is a unicorn.. you'll never find another one.. I'd want triple my money back..
amofgreenville is offline  
Old 05-30-2019, 11:11 AM
  #54  
Admirals Club Admiral's Club Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Texas
Posts: 5,400
Default

Originally Posted by alloyboy View Post
Fixed it for you. You are welcome.

Ever noticed that everyone is "devastated" these days by anything and everything?

I stumbled while walking down to the dock yesterday. I was devastated. Now waiting for my government relief check.
Your going to hurt someone's feelings.....
Jeepman is offline  
Old 05-30-2019, 11:25 AM
  #55  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 185
Default

Dude I bet A1 outboards has the motor for you! As others have said, retrieve the motor and get it running. Fresh water bathing will not kill it. If you think its not salvageable, then take the Merc.
niteatnicks is offline  
Old 05-30-2019, 11:35 AM
  #56  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2018
Location: WI
Posts: 104
Default

Originally Posted by kylemac1969 View Post
Folks,


I spent the entire winter searching for a replacement Yamaha 9.9hp kicker for my sailboat. After a long search, I traveled four hours away to grab a 1992 Yamaha 9.9hp four stroke long shaft with electric start and a tiller. It was in mint shape... just gorgeous.


I dropped the outboard off at the local boat mechanic shop near my boat slip two weeks ago. Told him to take the old one off, and put the new one on. Long horrible story short: his new inexperienced employee failed to tighten the motor to my mount. The outboard is now under 30 feet of water somewhere between the marina's sling and my slip. I have photos to prove the mechanic shops negligence, and he quickly acknowledged the error and said he's going to "make it right."


The milk is spilled, and I have to move on, rather than crying. Last night the mechanic called and said he couldn't find a Yamaha of similar kind and quality. He offered me a used Mercury 9.9, but I turned it down. I want a Yamaha. Well, I advised him that he is obviously going to have to pay me off.


So here is my question: What should I accept? 1) The value of a similar outboard of the kind and quality in the local marketplace (like a Yamaha short shaft four stroke with remote controls), 2) Actual Cash Value (insurance lingo for "you're taking a big loss"), or 3) Whatever he offers to pay?


I'm thinking $1500, as that's what they honestly cost. The only one I found other than the one I bought sold for $1400, but was not nearly as nice as the motor at the bottom of the lake. My friends are telling me the guy is a cheapskate and that he knows he can screw people because he's the only game in town. I have no trouble with a scorched earth policy here, as I wouldn't let this shop wax my bumpers.
whatever you paid plus travel to get it plus refunding any shop fees they charged you.

although personally I would take the merc if it is an equally good running engine.
avenger79 is online now  
Old 05-30-2019, 11:38 AM
  #57  
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2018
Posts: 19
Default

I like mercs. Personally I'd accept that probably. Great motor.it has an alternator to charge yobatteriets it would seal the deal for me


I'm guessing you will put a rope on it next time


In Miami craigslist in boat parts search for yamaha 9 hp.


sorry, I can't post URLs yet

Last edited by dammit; 05-30-2019 at 11:39 AM. Reason: Typo
dammit is offline  
Old 05-30-2019, 01:11 PM
  #58  
Senior MemberCaptains Club Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Swamp, FL
Posts: 1,841
Default

Originally Posted by alloyboy View Post
That needs to be known. Makes a world of difference as to who is responsible.

People only say what they want the audience to know.

I have a hunch. Could be wrong however.
I re-read his posts, and he says he was not there at the time of the loss of the engine. So, I would agree that it is on the marina, or should be.
Jkcam is offline  
Old 05-30-2019, 01:26 PM
  #59  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Northern British Columbia
Posts: 864
Default

Originally Posted by wetneck View Post
Forgot to mention in the add that the cylinders are full of oil due to incorrect storage.
BOSBoatMan likes this.
fishbum69 is offline  
Old 05-30-2019, 02:29 PM
  #60  
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: May 2019
Posts: 6
Default

Okay, here's the deal: The marina put the boat in the sling and launched the boat at 4:30 p.m. I was NOT there.

The marina then towed the boat to my slip.

That said, I originally believed the motor was stolen in the 90 minutes I was not there... except the marina was full of people who know me and my boat. Also, two dear friends just happened to be leaving the marina at 4:30 p.m., and snapped a photo (a one-ion-a-million shot). The motor is on the mount, but the fuel line is not connected. Clearly, it was on when launched, and physically difficult (backstay wires are in the way) to take in front of friends. No other motors missing.

Spoke to harbor master, who said he wanted to put the boat in at 11:30 a.m., and saw someone he didn't know working on the boat. He confronted the guy, who said he was the businesses' new employee. Well, he is now their former employee.

The mechanic is on the hook for the motor, as the marina never fired up the outboard. They never touched it, nor should they have.

My feelings aren't hurt. This is purely business, but I will not allow someone to lowball me on a replacement price. Looking at the comparable Yamaha motors, I'd say $1000-$1200 is acceptable.


kylemac1969 is offline  

Thread Tools
Search this Thread