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Outboard disaster (mechanic loses my outboard)

Old 05-30-2019, 06:29 AM
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Hire a diver to go find the motor. Outboards can be "unsunk" pretty easily. Especially the little ones.
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Old 05-30-2019, 06:36 AM
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Originally Posted by kylemac1969 View Post
You are mistaken, and I was maybe not clear. The outboard was placed on the boat. The boat was placed into sling and towed to slip. I was not there at the time, and was only able to prove his negligence because friends snapped a photo of my boat sitting in sling with outboard clearly attached. Fuel line wasn't, nor were electric cables.

It was like having him change the oil, and him not putting oil it, or putting on tire, but forgetting to put on the lug nuts.
Perhaps I misunderstood.
Is that small portable motor with a mounting clamp on a portable bracket or permanently bolted on motor
From the engine size I am assuming it is the first type, with a clamp.
Operator is responsible to safety check this type attachment prior to each departure. Also best practice is to tether those engines because of known issue of mount unreliability and motors falling off. Looks like you failed both with an excuse ;-)
whatever happens next get a tether on the replacement motor.
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Old 05-30-2019, 06:52 AM
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Originally Posted by simeoncoleman View Post
I think he offered you a fair deal. You searched high and low for a Yamaha and couldn't find one. The saying is Shat in one hand and want in the other. Take the mercury, and have him install it for free and give you a two year written warranty. See what the price difference is and see if he will add cash to the deal.

If not take what you paid for it and move on.
Fify. The warranty is only as good as his word and his business solvency, but he sounds somewhat honorable. Even a one year warranty is a enough time for you to wring it out a bit. What year is the merc? A 1992 Yammie is.....old......
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Old 05-30-2019, 06:52 AM
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Originally Posted by kylemac1969 View Post
Folks,


I spent the entire winter searching for a replacement Yamaha 9.9hp kicker for my sailboat. After a long search, I traveled four hours away to grab a 1992 Yamaha 9.9hp four stroke long shaft with electric start and a tiller. It was in mint shape... just gorgeous.


I dropped the outboard off at the local boat mechanic shop near my boat slip two weeks ago. Told him to take the old one off, and put the new one on. Long horrible story short: his new inexperienced employee failed to tighten the motor to my mount. The outboard is now under 30 feet of water somewhere between the marina's sling and my slip. I have photos to prove the mechanic shops negligence, and he quickly acknowledged the error and said he's going to "make it right."


The milk is spilled, and I have to move on, rather than crying. Last night the mechanic called and said he couldn't find a Yamaha of similar kind and quality. He offered me a used Mercury 9.9, but I turned it down. I want a Yamaha. Well, I advised him that he is obviously going to have to pay me off.


So here is my question: What should I accept? 1) The value of a similar outboard of the kind and quality in the local marketplace (like a Yamaha short shaft four stroke with remote controls), 2) Actual Cash Value (insurance lingo for "you're taking a big loss"), or 3) Whatever he offers to pay?


I'm thinking $1500, as that's what they honestly cost. The only one I found other than the one I bought sold for $1400, but was not nearly as nice as the motor at the bottom of the lake. My friends are telling me the guy is a cheapskate and that he knows he can screw people because he's the only game in town. I have no trouble with a scorched earth policy here, as I wouldn't let this shop wax my bumpers.
Why are you trying to make a profit on this? Same price as you paid for the motor.
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Old 05-30-2019, 06:57 AM
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$1500? I got a 1998 Yamaha 25 that I'd let go for just a little more than that, might have to revisit my pricing on that one!
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Old 05-30-2019, 07:04 AM
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Don't take money, just have him replace with the same type/condition outboard, subject to your approval. Let him look for and procure the replacement. Problem solved.
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Old 05-30-2019, 07:06 AM
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As mentioned a half dozen times, HIRE A DIVER!

Why keep beating the guy up? If you can't find and clean the motor then cross the bridge to compensation.

I get the frustration but it seems that a few acceptable resolutions have been offered and still you want blood from the guy.

Oh by the way...nice first post! Sorry had to go there..THT rules!
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Old 05-30-2019, 07:11 AM
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Price of that motor NEW was only about $2,200 RETAIL. Anything more than $500 is a bonus. Take $500, then go get the one that fell off before he does.
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Old 05-30-2019, 07:12 AM
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I would take the $$$ offered and buy a new one as a big down payment. Second, Yammies have shitty charging output current amounts and power tilt units are prone to fail.... I would look at the FI Suzuki's.
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Old 05-30-2019, 07:16 AM
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This is far from a disaster and there are many options on the table and seem fair. But it is a sailboat and we know how you guys are. Here is the real question. What do you want him to do? If it were me I would either ask for the cost I paid for the motor or have him do the leg work and find said motor. More then likely if it is that hard to find he may just find you something in better condition and eat the difference just to save the hassle.
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Old 05-30-2019, 07:22 AM
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You are due exactly what you paid for the motor and nothing more.

i would check out the Merc and take either that or cash
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Old 05-30-2019, 07:24 AM
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I would say you are owed thr price you paid for the motor and nothing more. Would be nice if he will mount the replacement at no charge.
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Old 05-30-2019, 07:25 AM
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How much did you pay for a 27 year old 9.9? I don’t see the price you actually paid in your post. IMO that’s what you are due plus any labor charges if you want cash reimbursement. Don’t be a prick and try to rake the guy over the coals for a mistake, sh!t happens. If it were me, and the Merc checks out ok and is newer, I would have taken that offer.
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Old 05-30-2019, 07:27 AM
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Are people really paying $1400 for a 92 outboard. A new 9.9 can be bought for 2700.
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Old 05-30-2019, 07:36 AM
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In the low HP world: A 2 str merc is a better motor than a 2 str yamaha. Less corrosion, less fuel consumption, better shifter location. Less weight.
I'm not sure about the 4strokes.
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Old 05-30-2019, 07:41 AM
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https://www.ebay.com/itm/2010-Yamaha...1&isGTR=1#shId

Maybe you can find one on ebay or Craigslist.
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Old 05-30-2019, 07:53 AM
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I'd take the Mercury and be thankful my good luck - it's a Tohatsu under the black paint and if my experience of Tohatsus is typical, it will go on and on forever.
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Old 05-30-2019, 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by kylemac1969 View Post
You are mistaken, and I was maybe not clear. The outboard was placed on the boat. The boat was placed into sling and towed to slip. I was not there at the time, and was only able to prove his negligence because friends snapped a photo of my boat sitting in sling with outboard clearly attached. Fuel line wasn't, nor were electric cables.

It was like having him change the oil, and him not putting oil it, or putting on tire, but forgetting to put on the lug nuts.
You're still not clear. Who was operating the boat when the motor took a swim?
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Old 05-30-2019, 08:00 AM
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How long was the boat in the slings before being launched and how long was she in the slip before you saw her? Are you sure the motor wasnt stolen? Ive left dingy motors slightly loose and have dragged them around and never lost one. How far was the boat towed from the slings to the slip?
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Old 05-30-2019, 08:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Jkcam View Post
You're still not clear. Who was operating the boat when the motor took a swim?
Sounds as thought it was the marina. If I understand correctly, they had just splashed the boat and were transporting it to his slip. OP had nothing to do with it.
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