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Old 05-28-2019, 06:36 PM
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My boat is on a lift, my favorite gas spot closed last year, they kept prices reasonable, usually $.50 over pump prices. Filled up this weekend at another marina for $3.35 and its about $2.65 at the pump so a $. 65- .70 difference had me considering alternatives. Hauling the boat to fill up is not worth it but I think a large enough gas caddy would pay for itself quickly. I can drive my truck up to my dock but it would be about 10' from the truck to the boat so I would need a 12-15' hose. I usually put 60-80 gallons at a fill up, \

I would love a truck mounted tank with a manual pump but I understand their may be illegalities of driving around with an external gas tank? Just curious what is the difference between a your trucks gas tank and a bed mounted gas tank? The portable ones seem to be limited to 25-30 gallons which would be 2 trips, not the end of the world.

Anyone do this to fill up at home? I see neighbors using a couple 5 gallon jugs but that is too much work to make it worthwhile.
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I am convinced the whole gas caddy concept was invented by a chiropractor and a spine surgeon. With that said, invest in three or 4 5 gallon cans. Schlep gas during the week so your fueled for the weekend. Stop two or three times? You can get 20 30 40 gallons over the course of the week without really going out of your way. That’s what I always do.
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Volume and weight. Tip over in an accident is a possibility and if that were to happen you could expect the tank to rupture and then you die.
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Just leave the gas cans / caddy near truck on ground, get yourself a 12V fuel pump and push it to boat.
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I used to jug gas. I was never comfortable with that. Now I jug diesel . I feel a bit safer. Transferring is a pain no matter what.
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I bought 4- 6 gallon gas cans with the same idea.....really a bad decision. Trying to hold the cans in place while pouring into the boat was bad enough but I spilled gas in the boat and even spilled some into the water and after I emptied all 4 of them into the fuel tank the gauge moved about 1/8".

As Still Stoked mentioned.....I bought a 14 gallon gas caddy to use mostly for home. But I figured if I was going to be spending a few days on the boat I could fill it up and pump 2-3 loads of fuel into the boat. Trying to lift 14 gallons of liquid that is moving isn't nearly as easy as I thought it was going to be. I think I filled it up 3 times and that was the end of it and now I just stick to multiple small fuel cans.

Our marina is pretty strict about bringing gas to the marina to put in your boat. It has something to do with their insurance not because they are pissed about losing the sale of the gas. The speed that the marina pumps fuel is also a hell of a lot faster, how long would it take someone to put 100 gallons of fuel into gas cans and then pour them into your boat? I hate paying the big money at the marina pump but at least it's non-ethanol, 89 octane, and it can pump 50 gallons in about 5 minutes so I just suck it up and pay for the marina gas.
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I live about a mile to a station with 25-35 mph roads so a roll over accident is unlikely

I would have to fill the boat with a tank in the truck, no way I could lift it out of the truck, I have a bad back to begin with, I would only lift it empty into the truck and out of the truck

I just read some reviews and the flow rate on the gravity models is way to slow and the quality of the PVC tanks seemed poor

might just have to suck it up and pay marina prices, I don't have time for 5 gallon fill ups
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I have a 50 gallon tank that I use to move gas to the farm also a larger one for diesel. I believe over 100 gallons you have to have Haz Mat certs.
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VP racing gas cans and a Jaz products funnel with a stainless screen. VP cans are cheap on eBay and Amazon. Jaz products funnel is from jegs. Search my post history and you will see a recent link to the funnel under a surecan thread.

I have 10 vp cans, can haul 6 at a time to the boat in a cart, or tote 2 at a time. Rated for 5 gallons. 5.5 wont burp out even in full sun, and 6 is doable if they won’t be stored for long. Can dump them in the funnel faster than you can pump gas into the cans.

Similar situation. On land station is 5 min away, and cheap non-ethanol. Normally dump 20-30 gallons at a time.
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You do not want to use the portable caddy unless you are only filling up with 25 gallons and are tired of filling up/carrying five 5 gallon jugs. I had the really heavy duty caddy before with pneumatic wheels, so rolling it wasn't a problem, but you have to remove it from your truck to fill it (to be compliant with the law) and then lift a 150 + lb caddy back into the bed of your truck, drive it to your dock, unload a 150 + lb caddy from the back of your truck and then roll it over to your boat and make sure it is elevated higher than the boat fill tube and then hang out for 10 minutes or so while you try to lean the caddy forward with one hand trying to get the maximum fuel flow while holding the hose into the fill tube with the other hand. I had plans of doing 4 trips to get a quantity of 100 gallons. After the third trip having realized that a 25 gallon caddy can only effectively hold 20 gallons for transport and it took much longer than I envisioned, I decided paying up to $1 more per gallon on the water was worth it.

A permanently mounted tank in your bed is 100% legal, but then you have to have some way to get the fuel from the tank to the boat. Gravity feed is not a viable option for a 15' run, so you have to go electric or hand crank.

When you look at the cost of the caddy or the truck mounted tank with pump for the amount of fuel you're talking about, you're not saving any money. I don't know truck tank/pump cost, but figure that if cost $1000 for the equipment, you would have to buy 1000 gallons of gas at $1 per gallon more than land based service station to break even....that's a lot of 60-80 gallon fill ups, even more at your $.65-.70 difference per gallon.
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If a50 cent up-charge was reasonable and 65 cent up-charge now is unreasonable, that's only a 15 cents difference.

On 60 gallons, that's only 9 bucks.

Why go through the hassle of hauling fuel for 9 dollars???
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The .50 cent mark up was last year so based on pump price this year I would be saving .70 per gallon if I went through this hassle. x 70 gallons is $49.00 x twice a month is $100 a month, worth looking into it IMO

Pulling the boat costs $10.00 at the city ramp but it's a two man process getting the truck and boat to the ramp so that probably wont happen.
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you can buy up to a 100' hose that will fit the nozzle of an ATL bladder and gravity fill if your boat is in the water and your truck is on land. Low tides help fuel flow downward with gravity the best. 100 gallons takes about 40"....20" in and 20" out give or take. You wont be repeatedly carrying even 35lbs of gas jugs for long. Or just call a fuel truck.
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Originally Posted by Sixstring View Post
If a50 cent up-charge was reasonable and 65 cent up-charge now is unreasonable, that's only a 15 cents difference.

On 60 gallons, that's only 9 bucks.

Why go through the hassle of hauling fuel for 9 dollars???
$39 per tank compared to pump price. I would gladly pay a few more $’s per tank if doing so didn’t involve burning 20 min of fuel each way to get to it.
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experiment with the 5 gallon cans. Maybe only put about 4 gallons in them? Worth a thought?
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many threads on this subject

if you do it, best to do it legally, and safely
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I have one of these that I use for my 25kw diesel home generator for post-hurricane refueling. The idea is to only move it empty. When it’s in my truck it gets filled, and then refuels the generator. Then it can be lifted out when empty.

John Dow 58 gallon tank/transfer pump.
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A fuel truck would not fit in my yard, the bladders look like they are about $800 plus , I don't burn enough fuel to spend that much on this
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Here is a 91 gallon transfer tank that’s $609 at Northern Tool. https://m.northerntool.com/shop/tool...yABEgLeaPD_BwE
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