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Old 05-23-2019, 11:11 AM
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Default Ring Free v. Seafoam

I finally finished off my case of Ring Free and looked online to reorder. Dang, when did the price get so ridiculous? Can any of you mechanics recommend something that is more reasonably priced?
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How about using nothing??
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Old 05-23-2019, 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by billinstuart View Post
How about using nothing??
That is always an option however I keep my boat in Southern Baja (La Paz) because SoCal fishing just isn't worth the price of fuel nowadays so as a result my boat can sit for a few months at a time. Even though Mx doesn't add ethanol to their fuel I still feel better having a fuel stabilizer in my tank. Years ago my mechanic had recommended Ring Free and I have used it ever since but it has gotten ridiculously expensive. I would pose this question to my mechanic rather than this board unfortunately (for me) he has retired and closed up shop.
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I've always used seafoam, in my opinion it does a great job and it stabilizes fuel. Consider buying some ring free because of what the Yamaha maintenance manual says but it seems expensive. Curious to what everyone else says
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Just buy some cheap stabil if all your are worried about is fuel life
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Ring-free does more than stabilize the fuel, according to the package. Sta-bil likely will do all you need if that is what u r trying to accomplish.
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We use lucas and sta-bil. haven't had any issues. Been doing this for 10+ years now.


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Google Startron

"""""""""""star tron fuel treatment sds""

I have been using this for a couple of years with no problem
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I run Seafoam NAPA runs the gallons on sale from time to time.

I would not have a boat or ATV with out it in the gas.
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stabil for a stabilizer and techron from costco for a fuel line cleaner.

or pay yamaha for the same stuff at many times the price just because they put their label on it.
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Ring Free, at least in the past, costs far less per dose per gallon then Sea Foam and is very, very different in carbon removal/prevention. The Costco Techron fuel injection cleaner is decent stuff but is not Ring Free. I don’t use Ring Free for fuel system cleaner, nor for fuel treatment. Good stuff though, coming from a guy that generally doesn’t like or recommend additives.
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If you buy it right, ring free works out to just over a dime per gallon of fuel treated.
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There is a wonderful tool available to consumers of such products called an SDS or MSDS.

The ingredient that matters in all of them is naptha in a light oil carrier with some products having a dollop of alcohol added as a drying agent. The Techron stuff does have some added juice to prevent the formation of the white powerdery corrosion you see in aluminum fuel sytem components.

I buy naptha and diesel by the gallon and mix my own for 0ennies on the dollar, and use Stabil for storage.
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Don’t use Lucas
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Marine Stabil will do a better job stabilizing the gas. For carbon control check out Startron ring clean. It's a little cheaper.
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Yamaha RingFree Plus is very, very strong and little goes into a tank per gallon. It's not really expensive to use as a decarbonizer.

On the other hand, Seafoam does not go very far, and it's extremely expensive to use. It's just diesel fuel mixed with a little straight alcohol (Heet) and naptha. The recipe is available online.

You can purchase the components to mix a batch of Seafoam for 1/141th of what a bottle sells for. I can see where it can dry up water in fuel, but I really don't know what it does for boats and cars. Owners swear by the stuff, however.
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Don't confuse stabiliser with carbon remover, two entirely different products, though most use either of them to "fix" everything, from old fuel, blocked carbs, dirty injectors, remove water in tank, tune up motor and I reckon some believe that it might even polish your gel coat, some swear they have been using it for 20 years and never had a problem, equally there is people who have use nothing but good maintenance for 20 years without issue too.
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Originally Posted by HTJ View Post
There is a wonderful tool available to consumers of such products called an SDS or MSDS.

The ingredient that matters in all of them is naptha in a light oil carrier with some products having a dollop of alcohol added as a drying agent. The Techron stuff does have some added juice to prevent the formation of the white powerdery corrosion you see in aluminum fuel sytem components.

I buy naptha and diesel by the gallon and mix my own for 0ennies on the dollar, and use Stabil for storage.
Back when I had to work for a living, I sent some Techron through the chem lab and the results were that the main component, about 95%, was naptha

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Originally Posted by HTJ View Post
There is a wonderful tool available to consumers of such products called an SDS or MSDS.

The ingredient that matters in all of them is naptha in a light oil carrier with some products having a dollop of alcohol added as a drying agent. The Techron stuff does have some added juice to prevent the formation of the white powerdery corrosion you see in aluminum fuel sytem components.

I buy naptha and diesel by the gallon and mix my own for 0ennies on the dollar, and use Stabil for storage.
SDS and MSDS sheets are to be believed! Sheets on Chainsaw bar oil, Sea Star hydraulic fluid, and 4 stroke engine oil look pretty much the same. Heck high temp wheel bearing grease and petroleum jelly also, though my daughter might object to the red grease on my granddaughters diaper.

Water is the main ingredient in beer, wine, apple juice and battery acid. The data sheets on gasoline all look the same but a race shop near me sell 5 gallon cans of race fuel for $72.95, I just filled up the RAV4 87 octane self service @ $2.46 per gallon, runs fine too.

BTW, Walmart has chainsaw bar oil on clearance if you need that 100hr engine oil change (buy the cheapest oil filter you can find as there is absolutely no difference in any of them). Pickup a cheap gallon of bar oil for your lower units too........ May be tough to fill your Sea Star helm with that skinny hose though?




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Originally Posted by noelm View Post
Don't confuse stabilizer with carbon remover, two entirely different products, though most use either of them to "fix" everything, from old fuel, blocked carbs, dirty injectors, remove water in tank, tune up motor and I reckon some believe that it might even polish your gel coat, some swear they have been using it for 20 years and never had a problem, equally there is people who have use nothing but good maintenance for 20 years without issue too.
noelm is right on. Don't confuse a fuel storage stabilizer with a combustion chamber carbon remover. If you are consuming fuel quickly, you don't need a stabilizer. How many people add it to their automobile fuel? Not many because you are consuming fuel quickly and it's not being stored for any length of time. I use a combustion chamber carbon remover (Ringfree) because I still have a 2-stroke. The added oil in the fuel tends to cause carbon to build up. If you are not storing the fuel for any length of time you don't need a stabilizer. If you are not building up carbon (check your spark plugs), you don't need Ring Free of Sea Foam.

If you do need a decarbonizer, I think that you will find that Ring Free is the most economical because it is quite concentrated. You have to compare how much it will cost you per gallon of fuel to figure it out.

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