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Old 06-10-2019, 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by tarpononecharter View Post
I apologize as I really didn't do an adequate job of saying why this event was significant.
Very often when a fatal boating event occurs we hear things like "they were too young", "he was too old to be alone", "the water was too cold", "they were under the influence", "they used bad judgement", etc., etc. In this case I suspect none of that was true. The prevailing attitude seems to be "It can't happen to me". Guess what, it can and does.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ke/1401634001/

I'm not about to armchair QB someone else's misfortune but information has been in very short supply on this. The area they were in is very busy and reportedly other boaters or folks from the dike saw the event unfold. There is heavy tanker traffic from the local Marathon (old BP) refinery but dealing with tanker wakes is second nature here.

Damn sad event no matter what.
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Old 06-10-2019, 01:04 PM
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My wife and I were on a Cruise to Key West and heard the news report. You can't help but shake your head and ask "why". Full grown man with decades ahead of him.
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Old 06-10-2019, 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by tarpononecharter View Post
What is interesting to me is that even after reading true accounts like this there is a significant number of boaters that say "I'll never wear a life jacket" or "The government should stay out". I especially like the guy that said never wore a seatbelt, never will. So I don't think threads like this really make a difference. People gonna do what they're gonna do.
What is interesting to me is that regardless of numerous other common recreational activities that are statistically far more dangerous, some people insist on proselytizing about EVERYONE wearing pfd's ALL THE TIME like they do.

On every one of these threads, someone always mentions making them mandatory, which of course is highly offensive to anyone that does not want to live their life forcibly "protected" from every possible hazard by our dear government.

Then, someone dies, and all the hand-wringing safety types come out pointing, haughtily inferring some kind of "victory". Whatever. I'm going to go out on a limb and suggest that the good chief probably saw his share of human tragedy. He did not need to be "educated". He did not need to be "saved from himself". He certainly knew the risks and clearly accepted them. Why can't everyone else just do the same and accept the decision he (and everyone else) makes for themselves?

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Old 06-10-2019, 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by scooperfl View Post
What is interesting to me is that regardless of numerous other common recreational activities that are statistically far more dangerous, some people insist on proselytizing about EVERYONE wearing pfd's ALL THE TIME like they do.

On every one of these threads, someone always mentions making them mandatory, which of course is highly offensive to anyone that does not want to live their life forcibly "protected" from every possible hazard by our dear government.

Then, someone dies, and all the hand-wringing safety types come out pointing, haughtily inferring some kind of "victory". Whatever. I'm going to go out on a limb and suggest that the good chief probably saw his share of human tragedy. He did not need to be "educated". He did not need to be "saved from himself". He certainly knew the risks and clearly accepted them. Why can't everyone else just do the same and accept the decision he (and everyone else) makes for themselves?
Let me be perfectly clear, I couldn't care less if you wear a life jacket. I am not the PFD police and you are free to operate in whatever manner you see fit. The point that I am trying to make is that these accidents can happen to anyone and when you are in the water and your life is slipping away it is too late to be "educated". No hautily victory here, just cold hard truth.
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Old 06-10-2019, 11:14 PM
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if they want to save lives make wearing a 5 point harness and a helmet in your car. that would save many times more lives than all the life jackets stacked end to end. and make smoking illegal as well as fatty foods. and walking outside on a dark night.
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Old 06-11-2019, 02:07 AM
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The various threads over the past few days about people not willing to tow boats because they're worried about being sued for not being towed correctly raises an interesting point - if there are lawyers who will consider suing a good samaritan for such an action, how long before a boat owner is sued for not ensuring a fatality was wearing a lifejacket?
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Old 06-11-2019, 02:21 AM
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Wife got me a mustang auto for Christmas. Wore it for the first time this weekend. Went out with junior and figured itís time to start getting used to wearing it. Not super uncomfortable but will take a little bit.

Enough being stupid. Iíll wear it as much as possible.
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Old 06-11-2019, 04:21 AM
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20 years ago they fished the lifeless body of a coworker out of the river less than 2 miles from my place of work. He was fishing alone and was thrown from the boat on a calm and sunny day. A PFD could have saved him. I wear an inflatable and the kill switch lanyard every time Iím fishing alone.
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Old 06-11-2019, 04:30 AM
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If I'm on my own the family only let me out in the boat with a life jacket with my epirb attached
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Old 06-11-2019, 05:09 AM
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Not wearing a PFD is just stupid.
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Old 06-11-2019, 06:46 PM
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what kind of helmet do you wear in the car to protect your head in an accident. not wearing one is stupid.
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Old 06-11-2019, 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by fishbottom View Post
what kind of helmet do you wear in the car to protect your head in an accident. not wearing one is stupid.
Well, when was the last time you heard of someone falling out of their car?
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Old 06-11-2019, 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by NC_Native View Post
Well, when was the last time you heard of someone falling out of their car?
Hundreds of people die every day in car accidents.
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Old 06-11-2019, 07:01 PM
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For all you guys that are dead set, no pun intended, against wearing a PFD we don't fucking care! It is your life and you can live it or lose it as you see fit. Hopefully there is a group of boaters and fisherman that are not knowledgeable about inflatable life jackets or are on the bubble so to speak and a thread like this one may change their point of view.
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Old 06-11-2019, 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Rico2 View Post
Hundreds of people die every day in car accidents.

​​​​​​​And thousands have been saved by wearing a seat belt - to me that is more the equivalent of wearing a lifejacket - or wearing a crash helmet on a motorcycle - all three are simple to do - two are readily accepted, one seems still to find a lot of resistance.
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Old 06-11-2019, 07:04 PM
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I thought the question was about wearing a condom.
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Old 06-11-2019, 07:18 PM
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I never wear a life jacket, never will. Life sucks, this country has gone to crap, why am I going to take away the only possible way for me to die earlier than old age. If something actually happens and I end up in the water seeing death, at least I went out doing the only thing I like and don't have to come back to see the crap going on back on land again. I always tell everybody when I die I want to be put into a clear casket imbedded in concrete and sunk as a reef for divers to come see my body underwater and fisherman to catch fish all while I'm watching the whole thing from my clear casket.
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Old 06-11-2019, 07:38 PM
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Some believe wearing a pfd should be required. Even after losing dad under water, I disagree. But, bet your ass that I’ll always be pissed that he wasn’t wearing the inflatable I gave him and required him to wear while on my boat. Not because he is dead - the pfd would not have saved his life (he died doing what he loved on the lake we knew he wanted to die on) - but because mom suffered for several agonizing days wondering if he was even alive and laying on the shore somewhere or if he was dead. Then, the worry about whether or not they would find the body in the time they allocated to the recovery. And, if they didn’t find the body, if he’d pip up 1 year, 2 years, 4 years later and we’d be asked to identify the remains (or whatever).

So, I wear for my loved ones’ sanity and well-being. If you don’t give a shit about the pain and suffering your loved ones will be forced to deal with, don’t wear one. If there aren’t enough people to care, don’t wear one. If you’re someone I love, I’m gonna be all over your ass to wear, so they find your dead body ASAP and I’m never suffering like that again. And, I’ll happily be at your memorial talking about how you loved fishing, loved being on the water, couldn’t think of a better way to have your ticket punched, and that you cared enough about us to minimize our pain.

I do t have kids, but when we heard dad’s boat was found without him in it, I couldn’t help but to think about how parents feel when their kids go missing. Holy crap. That’s not a feeling you ever want.
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Old 06-11-2019, 08:15 PM
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No. I take other precautions though. PLB in my pocket and clipped to my belt, and autotether when fishing solo.
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Old 06-11-2019, 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by scott_gunn View Post
I wear an inflatable one when alone.
Same here. You won't believe how many seasoned boater friends make fun when they see me wearing one, but I don't care. One of those friends learned the hard way when he fell off the boat and his son and partner didn't notice for 15 minutes. Luckily for him, the water was warm, he didn't hit his head and the seas were calm, so they traced back the track with the GPS and found him. That was in the Bahamas, so he could've easily been lost at sea. I also wear an inflatable one at night.
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