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View Poll Results: Power for a Contender 36: Twin F350C, or triple HF250's?
Twin Yamaha F350C's
23.26%
Triple Tihatsu 250's
17.83%
Twin DF350A
42.64%
Twin G2 300's
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Twin F350C vs Triple Tihatsu HF250's

Old 05-14-2019, 07:21 PM
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Default Twin F350C vs Triple Tihatsu HF250's

I am thinking of moving up to a used contender 36 classic, Contender 35T, CV340B, or Cape Horn 36. The boats I am looking at typically have gen I merc Verados, 2009 Gen II Merc Verado 300's with toooo many hours or G1 Etecs. Since reliable power is the #1 priority, I plan to roll the cost of new power into a boat loan. For this class of CC, is it better to have triple 250's (more torque, 50 more horses and better redundancy) or twin Yamaha F350C's (340 lbs less weight, less drag and less Mx cost)? I realize a single F350C will not get any of these CC's on plane. Appreciate any advice.
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Trip 300s of whateve5
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I agree with trip 300's. However, I saw at the Tampa boat shows the boat show price of a Tihatsu HF250 at $16K. F300s are at least $23K. So for 3 engines, that is $21K more for the 300's.
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No Merc V8's in the mix?
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No Merc V8's in the mix?
people who got burned by older optimax motors NEVER include merc in polls. That could be why. Merc
makes a good 4 stroke. I’d go merc 4 stroke over Suzuki any day all day.
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No Merc V8's in the mix?
I think the new merc 4.6L V8 300hp engine is probably the best new 300 hp out there (in terms of performance and features) even in comparison to the benchmark Yamaha 4.2L V6 300hp in which I own two on a Cobia 296. However, you have to pay top MSRP and the wait list for Merc and Yamaha is historically high.
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Originally Posted by Ken.Caryer@gmail.com View Post
I think the new merc 4.6L V8 300hp engine is probably the best new 300 hp out there (in terms of performance and features) even in comparison to the benchmark Yamaha 4.2L V6 300hp in which I own two on a Cobia 296. However, you have to pay top MSRP and the wait list for Merc and Yamaha is historically high.
There is no wait list for Yamaha these days.
As for twins or trips.
Where do you plan to fish and how far out and often?
If it's a ways and you loose an engine for whatever reason, better have some beer, it's a hike home on one engine.
If it's 10-15 miles, then maybe that is not an issue.


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Originally Posted by Tossedabout View Post

people who got burned by older optimax motors NEVER include merc in polls. That could be why. Merc
makes a good 4 stroke. I’d go merc 4 stroke over Suzuki any day all day.
Please shed some light on us here why you would pick Mercury over Suzuki “any day all day”

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Originally Posted by Parker Yacht View Post
There is no wait list for Yamaha these days.
As for twins or trips.
Where do you plan to fish and how far out and often?
If it's a ways and you loose an engine for whatever reason, better have some beer, it's a hike home on one engine.
If it's 10-15 miles, then maybe that is not an issue.
I heard there is a wait for the F350C. Not as bad as for the Merc 4.6L. I fish out of Tarpon and run 80 miles to the grounds and Elbow in the GOM. I realize the most significant drawback of twin F350C or DF350 and most certainly V350's would be that fact that a single engine will not get a Contender 35T, 36 or Cape Horn 36, CV340B on plane.....no way....no how. However, it is much more economical to buy & maintain twin F350C/DF350A's or even Merc Verado 350's than trips.....save for Trip HF250 Tihatsu. I know the 250 is so obsolete as a HP rating, however, I am not Mr Money bags to be able to move up to a new mid-30's boat, thus I want to buy used and a lot of used mid 30 CC's have very questionable power hanging on their transomes. Talking about Gen I Verado 275's, G1 Etecs, mega hour 1st gen 4-stroke trip 250's. If I get a mid sized 35 foot class open CC to run to the grounds and back, I would want to repower.
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Please shed some light on us here why you would pick Mercury over Suzuki “any day all day”
Corrosion resistance, warranty, dealer network, parts availability, and reverse thrust just to name a few.
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Corrosion resistance, warranty, dealer network, parts availability, and reverse thrust just to name a few.

This is 2019 not 2005. Quit living in the past. Mercury and Yamaha will eventually come to grips that Zuke is here to stay and learn to play in the same sandbox or just keep sticking their heads in the sand. Either way doesn’t matter.
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Originally Posted by Ken.Caryer@gmail.com View Post
I agree with trip 300's. However, I saw at the Tampa boat shows the boat show price of a Tihatsu HF250 at $16K. F300s are at least $23K. So for 3 engines, that is $21K more for the 300's.

pick of a set of 1year old V350's...people on Merc program are always re-powering. Easy to find

If budget is an issue, the Sea Vee and 35T will both run well with twin Verados...cant speak for the 36's
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Originally Posted by Yellowfin85 View Post
Corrosion resistance, warranty, dealer network, parts availability, and reverse thrust just to name a few.

This is 2019 not 2005. Quit living in the past. Mercury and Yamaha will eventually come to grips that Zuke is here to stay and learn to play in the same sandbox or just keep sticking their heads in the sand. Either way doesn’t matter.
Maybe.
But Merc and Yamaha play in MLB stadiums.
The other is in the Grapefruit League.
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What ever gain you make in trips will be lost in the extra fuel weight and expense.
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Originally Posted by Yellowfin85 View Post
Corrosion resistance, warranty, dealer network, parts availability, and reverse thrust just to name a few.

This is 2019 not 2005. Quit living in the past. Mercury and Yamaha will eventually come to grips that Zuke is here to stay and learn to play in the same sandbox or just keep sticking their heads in the sand. Either way doesn’t matter.

Why would any company with a competing product "play nicely"??
Etec and Suzuki are trying very very hard to take market share away. I am not super loyal to any brand but that is just naive/silly
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Get one that has already been repowered

https://www.yachtworld.com/boats/200...-open-3538445/
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Originally Posted by Yellowfin85 View Post
Corrosion resistance, warranty, dealer network, parts availability, and reverse thrust just to name a few.

This is 2019 not 2005. Quit living in the past. Mercury and Yamaha will eventually come to grips that Zuke is here to stay and learn to play in the same sandbox or just keep sticking their heads in the sand. Either way doesn’t matter.
In the grand scheme of things does Suzuki even show up on Mercury's or Yamaha's radar?

Yes, Suzuki is here to stay. Same with Honda. Same with Evinrude. Same with Tohatsu. They are but niche players in the outboard motor world. I doubt that all four combined come anywhere close to either Mercury's or Yamaha's motor sales. All four appear to be content with their roles in it. So be it.
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Originally Posted by rocksandblues View Post
Why would any company with a competing product "play nicely"??
Etec and Suzuki are trying very very hard to take market share away. I am not super loyal to any brand but that is just naive/silly
Looks to me like they are doing everything possible to maintain the market share they have.

They seem to be content with that market share. A motor maker needs to know his limitations.
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Originally Posted by Blazer7420 View Post
Maybe.
But Merc and Yamaha play in MLB stadiums.
The other is in the Grapefruit League.
You give the other four minor characters too much credit methinketh.

I am thinking they are in the middle of the minor leagues.
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Originally Posted by alloyboy View Post
Looks to me like they are doing everything possible to maintain the market share they have.

They seem to be content with that market share. A motor maker needs to know his limitations.
Do you have an idea of market share?
Does anyone?
Mercury %
Yamaha %
Suzuki %
BRP %
7 Marine %
Honda/Tohatsu %

There is the hint.
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