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Old 05-11-2019, 09:53 PM
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just finished an engine run on a prospective boat. Catapiller tech ran the engine diagnostics. Now the question is where are the results recorded. I own the data from the test, but is this information also stored with Catapiller? Can future surveys get history on these motors?
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Originally Posted by stephens013 View Post
just finished an engine run on a prospective boat. Catapiller tech ran the engine diagnostics. Now the question is where are the results recorded. I own the data from the test, but is this information also stored with Catapiller? Can future surveys get history on these motors?
yes and yes.....CAT tracks everything by serial number. As long as it was serviced by an authorized dealer than they should have records back to the original commissioning date.
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Yes Cat records and stores the data for each encounter with one of their engines. Now if they will share that info with you is another question
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They will "share" ..if you pay for it.
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Pretty vague question

what tests did you pay for?
what data was recorded?

hooking up to the engine with ET and looking at settings is a lot different than running a PAR test. Until you know what was done and what you paid for, hard to tell what you can get years from now

not all service tests tests are stored. The ecm certainly can’t store test data manually performed by the dealer
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Originally Posted by baitdragger View Post
Pretty vague question

what tests did you pay for?
what data was recorded?

hooking up to the engine with ET and looking at settings is a lot different than running a PAR test. Until you know what was done and what you paid for, hard to tell what you can get years from now

not all service tests tests are stored. The ecm certainly can’t store test data manually performed by the dealer
what ever tests are done on a sea trial Conducted by the area Catapiller authorized dealer and service technician. 😳
Port engine would not make WOT. Just wondering how much leverage I have over the owner. Motor runs and one might over look the short fall if not looking at fuel pressure drop and so on.
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What are the engines and what is the boat?
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Originally Posted by stephens013 View Post


what ever tests are done on a sea trial Conducted by the area Catapiller authorized dealer and service technician. 😳
Port engine would not make WOT. Just wondering how much leverage I have over the owner. Motor runs and one might over look the short fall if not looking at fuel pressure drop and so on.
Reread baitdraggers question, did they just hook up a laptop and go for a ride or did they hook up more wires and instrumentation than a patient in an ICU? A full PAR test (patient in ICU) is much more involved and costs quite a bit more. If you paid for the test (either one), you own the results and the dealer will supply you with the report.
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Well I paid a pretty penny to have the Catapiller guy look behind the curten so to speak. Did specified performance runs on both motors. Oil samples and written report.
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I don’t know how else to reply based on the posts

call the dealer in the morning and ask them directly
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Well I paid a pretty penny to have the Catapiller guy look behind the curten so to speak. Did specified performance runs on both motors. Oil samples and written report.
Are you asking: does Caterpillar enter the visit and all the filed technician's notes, lab reports and electronic data into the CAT database? Answer to that question is yes. CAT keeps a full history on every engine (and piece of equipment) they produce. Every encounter with CAT is added to that database so that they can both keep track of it and efficiently do diagnostics and repairs.
If so one else hires CAT for a survey and PAR analysis, the service history of those engines will show your visit.
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Do you mind saying what engines and on what type and size of boat? I recently boat one with CATS and got a god awful mech survey. I paid what I would ( and should) have paid to CAT for an "icu" survey.

Ronny Stewart at Ring ( Tampa) has been extremely helpful and responsive to a whole host of questions.
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Originally Posted by LI32 View Post
Are you asking: does Caterpillar enter the visit and all the filed technician's notes, lab reports and electronic data into the CAT database? Answer to that question is yes. CAT keeps a full history on every engine (and piece of equipment) they produce. Every encounter with CAT is added to that database so that they can both keep track of it and efficiently do diagnostics and repairs.
If so one else hires CAT for a survey and PAR analysis, the service history of those engines will show your visit.

once the engines leave the factory, service reports are usually stored at the dealer level. Have no idea how they can be stored at the factory level if you even tried

hence my post all along is, what reports were purchased and what does the local dealer say you are getting?

this shouldn’t be hard to figure out

person A paid dealer A for report type X

they should be provided with a copy of report type X, not Y or Z

and there is nowhere in any service T&Cs stating that these reports are being stored at the factory level

same with Yamaha. If you call up Yamaha factory they don’t have access to your engine data nor the results of the last compression test. Warranty repairs sure....random test results performed by a technician, again dealer level only. Not stored at Yamaha Corp....they aren’t tracking anything unless it is attached to a warranty claim
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once the engines leave the factory, service reports are usually stored at the dealer level. Have no idea how they can be stored at the factory level if you even tried

hence my post all along is, what reports were purchased and what does the local dealer say you are getting?

this shouldn’t be hard to figure out

person A paid dealer A for report type X

they should be provided with a copy of report type X, not Y or Z

and there is nowhere in any service T&Cs stating that these reports are being stored at the factory level

same with Yamaha. If you call up Yamaha factory they don’t have access to your engine data nor the results of the last compression test. Warranty repairs sure....random test results performed by a technician, again dealer level only. Not stored at Yamaha Corp....they aren’t tracking anything unless it is attached to a warranty claim
do you know about Cat specifically? Or you just talking in general?

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