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Old 04-29-2019, 07:31 PM
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Default 13 Whaler Super Sport deck doesn't drain?

I picked up a 13 Whaler SS and one of the attributes on paper that I liked was the fact that you could pull the plug while slipped and only a small amount of water would come in but the deck would drain. So the other day, I pull the plug and water came gushing in, hmmm, okay, ill get out of the boat, maybe with all my weight it's pushing the scupper under.... Nope, water was still coming in and sloshing in and out. Needless to say not the result I was expecting based on how Whaler markets it. We slip the boat so I was hoping not to have to siphon water out after or rains or when I rinse it out.

​​​​​​Is this consistent with what others experience?

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Your boat may have wet foam or otherwise be heavy in the stern. Try shifting weight (battery) forward.
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Old 04-29-2019, 09:20 PM
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What year whaler do you have? What hp motor? Batteries ect?

The classic 13' sport will have a dry hull with up to a 15hp 2 stroke with the plug out. A 35hp 2 stroke and a starting battery will be about 2.5" on the deck a 55 hp I never pulled the plug!

I don't know about the modern gen. Check continuous wave

depends on the set up. And your super sport is heavier.
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It is a 2013, the battery is under the seat, theres no shifting in this boat. It does have the 40hp Merc on the stern and the two tank set up. Both tanks are pretty full right now too.

Maybe this is common with the weight of this power?
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I just picked up a 2000 13 Sport. It's rated for 30 hp. The Merc. 30 2 cylinder on it from the factory weighs in at ~170 lbs. Ive seen the same hull with 3 cylinder 40's on them. With the fuel tank full, and the plug out, just a bit of water comes in the boat like in the video. If you're seeing water gushing in, you have water intrusion or more weight than intended on the transom.
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My 2005 has two plugs. The one that drains the boat at rest is under the driver-side seat. They say the rear one will drain the boat at speed, but I've never tried it.
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On my '06, there were two plugs, one on the transom, and one under the helm seat for self draining while slipped. The one you pull for self draining was the one under the helm seat.
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the water will find its own level, a whaler will not stop simple physics

the lower it sits in the water the more water will seem to come into the boat when its at rest
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Originally Posted by Classic25 View Post
I just picked up a 2000 13 Sport. It's rated for 30 hp. The Merc. 30 2 cylinder on it from the factory weighs in at ~170 lbs. Ive seen the same hull with 3 cylinder 40's on them. With the fuel tank full, and the plug out, just a bit of water comes in the boat like in the video. If you're seeing water gushing in, you have water intrusion or more weight than intended on the transom.
Two different hulls. theres no water intrusion, boat drove off the lot 5 yrs sgo, boat lived its very short life on a trailer, like new, very little hours. It is factory rigged.
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This is a pretty dumb design. One would think at the very least they would have used a self retaining plug. With this style plug when water goes out it pushes the plug away from the boat allowing free drain, but when it tries to come back in the plug gets forced back into the hole and the O ring helps keep the water out. It doesn't completely stop the water from coming in but it slows about 90 percent of it.
https://www.amazon.com/Marine-DP-1-DP-Self-Retaining-Transom-Drain/dp/B0000AY0BX/ref=asc_df_B0000AY0BX/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=312148125047&hvpos=1o4&hvnetw=g&hvrand=16252809870488048002&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9011572&hvtargid=pla-491156646894&psc=1 https://www.amazon.com/Marine-DP-1-DP-Self-Retaining-Transom-Drain/dp/B0000AY0BX/ref=asc_df_B0000AY0BX/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=312148125047&hvpos=1o4&hvnetw=g&hvrand=16252809870488048002&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9011572&hvtargid=pla-491156646894&psc=1
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Originally Posted by Raybo Marine NY View Post
the water will find its own level, a whaler will not stop simple physics

the lower it sits in the water the more water will seem to come into the boat when its at rest
Understood.

The question is, is this typical for this boat and power package, surely someone has this same set up, they sell a ton of them.
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have taken apart and repaired whalers a couple years old they can get water in from anywhere. unsealed screw holes and fittings, rub rail, grab rails, engine, etc
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Originally Posted by VetteLT193 View Post
This is a pretty dumb design. One would think at the very least they would have used a self retaining plug. With this style plug when water goes out it pushes the plug away from the boat allowing free drain, but when it tries to come back in the plug gets forced back into the hole and the O ring helps keep the water out. It doesn't completely stop the water from coming in but it slows about 90 percent of it. https://www.amazon.com/Marine-DP-1-D...56646894&psc=1
will give it a shot, certainly easier than pulling the plug each time while moving in order to evacuate the water.
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Originally Posted by VetteLT193 View Post
This is a pretty dumb design. One would think at the very least they would have used a self retaining plug. With this style plug when water goes out it pushes the plug away from the boat allowing free drain, but when it tries to come back in the plug gets forced back into the hole and the O ring helps keep the water out. It doesn't completely stop the water from coming in but it slows about 90 percent of it. https://www.amazon.com/Marine-DP-1-D...56646894&psc=1
Nice find, I wonder if you can use the plug independently and discard the mounting flange.
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I was wondering the same thing...
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I suspect it's the heavier motor and two full tanks. Water intrusion is highly unlikely given your description of the boat. It's still "self bailing," it will just allow more water into the boat than shown on the video in your original post.
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I have a 15’ with the same drain. It works as it should . But if I step in the boat water will come in slowly. . You can try a few things. Move the full fuel tank to the boat when not in use. Tilt the engine all the way up. That brings the weight forward a bit. Put any personal gear in the anchor locker
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I have a 15’ with the same drain. It works as it should . But if I step in the boat water will come in slowly. . You can try a few things. Move the full fuel tank to the boat when not in use. Tilt the engine all the way up. That brings the weight forward a bit. Put any personal gear in the anchor locker
motor is tilted up in the slip, I have 2 tanks. Instead of lugging them every time my kids want to use the boat I am going to run one tank down and maybe look to keep the half full and see if that improves things.
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A reply from Whaler on the matter... So despite advertising these hulls as self bailing, I guess they really aren't self bailing or conditionally self bailing subject to being rigged to the lightest specification.

Typically, yes this will happen. The deck is not really a self bailing deck when sitting static. It drains best while underway. Because of the low free-board of the boat and the deck height, it was a challenge to get the boat high enough out of the water when loaded down and allow the deck to self bail while sitting static.
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Originally Posted by Fish'nFool View Post
A reply from Whaler on the matter... So despite advertising these hulls as self bailing, I guess they really aren't self bailing or conditionally self bailing subject to being rigged to the lightest specification.

Typically, yes this will happen. The deck is not really a self bailing deck when sitting static. It drains best while underway. Because of the low free-board of the boat and the deck height, it was a challenge to get the boat high enough out of the water when loaded down and allow the deck to self bail while sitting static.
physics man, you cant really expect a boat that basically sits below water to not always have water in it unless you put a bilge pump and keep the boat plugged in

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