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Old 04-24-2019, 08:35 AM
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I have been looking at used 23 ish catamarans for the last few months. I really want a dual console but they are a little out of my price range. I think a center console will work for me too so that is what I have been targeting. I missed a deal on a 2001 22’ CC World cat in January but I persisted. I found a 2013 23’ CC Carolina Cat with low hours and in great shape. I will be test riding the boat next week. In February, the motors had their 100 hour service completed, one engine trim motor replaced and 2 new batteries. The trailer is a 2017 with disk brakes and torsion axles. I have been told it looks and works like new. If all goes well, I'll be buying this boat.

Not having any experience with cats, anything to try or look for during the test ride besides making sure everything works properly?

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I have been looking at used 23 ish catamarans for the last few months. I really want a dual console but they are a little out of my price range. I think a center console will work for me too so that is what I have been targeting. I missed a deal on a 2001 22’ CC World cat in January but I persisted. I found a 2013 23’ CC Carolina Cat with low hours and in great shape. I will be test riding the boat next week. In February, the motors had their 100 hour service completed, one engine trim motor replaced and 2 new batteries. The trailer is a 2017 with disk brakes and torsion axles. I have been told it looks and works like new. If all goes well, I'll be buying this boat.

Not having any experience with cats, anything to try or look for during the test ride besides making sure everything works properly?
100 hours.....what happened to trim motor? Run that boat as long as you can on the sea trial. Why is that person getting rid of a boat with 100 hours? Get a read out for the motors. Only way I would buy a used one.
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Old 04-24-2019, 09:02 AM
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Should be a good boat, unless badly abused. That was fairly early in the Carolina Cat Saga. I have a Caracal Cat--which became the Carolina Cat 18. I have talked to several owners of the 23, and driven along side them in some chop. The boats seem to ride nicely. The one thing I would look for is water in the hulls, Check the condition of fuel tanks--for corrosion. Get a print out from the computers of the engines.
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Old 04-24-2019, 09:05 AM
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Thanks for suggesting a print out, that may have slipped my mind.
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Old 04-24-2019, 09:07 AM
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Why is that person getting rid of a boat with 100 hours?
Perhaps because their boat.... has only 100 hours after 5-6 years?
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Old 04-24-2019, 09:22 AM
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I have a 26’ Worldcat CC, they love there trim so use it and get to know it like second nature. Following seas/quartering seas will surprise you when it wants to catch a sponson(hull). But If trimmed properly and very actively in those seas it won’t catch. You’ll enjoy being out all day and not felt beat up when you get back home.
at least with the Worldcat (sits a bit higher) when running into head
seas 2-4’s the faster I go the smoother the ride .
My worlcat cruises at 30 top end is 40 loaded (bf200’s) with gear and full of fuel (200gals) it’s not a “fast boat” but when it gets rough I don’t need to slow down. So then it becomes a “fast boat”

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Old 04-24-2019, 09:26 AM
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Do they have any wood in them?

I might like a cat, but I am adamant any boat I have will not have any wood in it.

I love my all composite Pro Line. That thing is totally rock solid. The boat can take a hell of a lot more than I ever could.

I wonder about cats. They might ride nice but that's got to be a lot of force trying to rip those two hulls apart. They would have to be built very strong. I would not want to be messing around with any wood involved in the structure or anywhere else for that matter. It needs to be really strong and built so it never comes apart or rots and needs fixing.

Can you imagine how much force that bridgedeck gets hit with when it bottoms out? That's gonna try to make the two hulls flex in different directions, like it's trying to rip the boat apart.

If it can't take it, I don't want it. I want the boat to be able to take more than I ever want to go through. Ya never know when ya might misjudge a wave and fail to slow down enough.
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Old 04-24-2019, 09:36 AM
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Nice boat. Hard to kill with 100 hrs and 6 yrs old. Good luck with the deal. Pics when you get it.
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buying a cat without any experience on a cat?!?!?!? I think I have the right name for your boat... CAT SCRATCH FEVER. Seems like everybody has it these days! I have fished a few and I am also a fan. Good luck.
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Old 04-24-2019, 09:44 AM
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I'm reading that the engines just had their 100 hour service in the sense that the service that they need every 100 hours was just done and not that the engines only have 100 hours on them total. Could be wrong...
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Old 04-24-2019, 09:47 AM
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I trust you’re getting a survey and having engines checked?
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Old 04-24-2019, 10:46 AM
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Engines are at 110 hours. Boat deal is $2,000 below blue book and about $11,000 below an other comparable Carolina cat I have seen for sale in the last 4 months.
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Old 04-24-2019, 11:40 AM
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Sea trial is set for Monday


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Old 04-24-2019, 12:06 PM
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Good looking boat. Curious to hear your thoughts after the demo. I looked at a couple cats before buying my current boat.
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Looks like a boat that has sat inside a garage for most of its life. Or, it sunk and was restored... I’d check the wires around the batteries and battery switches for signs of corrosion. Check for engine corrosion. Check for a wet hull.

Might be be a problem boat or one that the owner just never used and wants to get rid of..
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Looks like a new boat for sure.
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Nice looking boat. My family switched to cat boats (Twin Vee) back 2002 or so after may dad spent 1 day in the Bahamas on a 26' Twinvee. After a rough crossing in our old Pursuit, he didn't even want to fish because of a sore back. He spent the next day fishing on a friends Twinvee and he was convinced.
We got a 22' Twinvee shortly after returning from the Bahamas and then 26' a few years later. I'm running the 26' Twinvee still.

In your photo it looks like there are several openings (through-hull) below the waterline. What are those for? In deck livewells?
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Old 04-25-2019, 04:40 AM
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The Carolina cat is a decent boat. I tested one for a couple of hours and was impressed. Smooth ride, good handling characteristics, great efficiency. With the twin 115’s, the boat moves along well, and the fuel burn was quite low. You won’t win any races in that boat, but it is quite versatile. The layout is a good combination of fishing access, and family cruising. There are better boats, faster boats, and nicer boats, but this 23’ checks a lot of boxes for many who like a boat in this size range.

Check out all the systems, do a thorough pre buy and survey if needed, as with any boat. Curious, what is the asking price, as I haven’t kept up with pricing.on them. The one I tested about 3-4 years ago was right around 100, new. Good luck with your survey and inspections, and report back on the boat.
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Old 04-25-2019, 05:28 AM
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Also, look for delamination where the top and bottom molds attach. look into the bilge area and look for any stress cracks in the transom area, If it has a leaky gas tank, you will smell the fuel. Look under the boat between the pontoons and see if there are any stress cracks there as well. Take the motors to the dealer and hook them up to the computers and get a print out and service history. Look for signs of corrosion on the motors. Do a sea trial as long as 1 hour. I would hope any engine issues would reveal itself. The boat looks really good. Either they took really good care of it or is a restoration from a hurricane. I believe a title search would reveal if it was a salvage boat.

I want to tell you guys a little story as of recently. I recently saw a 2002 ProKat 28' with new win Suzuki 300s advertised on this site. The motors had 36 hours on them. He gave me a story that he was the original owner and had a lot of memories on the boat so he wanted to restore it. The guy was a very smooth talker so I listened to him. In his post he talked about how the phones were off the hook about the boat. He supposedly had a signed contract with someone else but of course he was going to give me first shot at it. I had to see this boat and do a sea trial. I was ready to buy! I got there and things started not adding up. The motors didn't look new so I looked at the serial #s and noticed they were 2016s and not as advertised. I'm wondering how the hell 2016 motors had such low hours. Turns out they ECUs had been replaced in both motors. This resets the hours on the motors. So i get on my knees and stick my head in the bilge area. Gas smell! The smell was very strong. He proceeded to tell me he flushed the gas tanks and some spilled out. I'm really starting to smell the BS now. Who flushes gas tanks? this guy had an answer for everything! So we set sail and he puts the motors into gear and the fly by wire was not responsive. He had to turn the batteries off and on to reset it. He was like this is a normal issue with Suzuki 300s. We got to the other side of the bay and he loaded the boat on the trailer. I got back to my truck and hauled ass. I did a little research and found that year of Pro Kat had gas tank issues. Only two ways to replace these gas tanks. Separate the top and bottom of the mold or cut a hole in the deck. No fun! The boat is still on here and he is saying someone has contracted the boat and had him add more electronics. He is confident he has a sale it still says in the ad. I ended up buying a 2008 Pro Kat 28' in Ft Lauderdale with twin Zuke 300s 400 hours. Be careful out there and good luck on your purchase!
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Do they have any wood in them?

I might like a cat, but I am adamant any boat I have will not have any wood in it.

I love my all composite Pro Line. That thing is totally rock solid. The boat can take a hell of a lot more than I ever could.

I wonder about cats. They might ride nice but that's got to be a lot of force trying to rip those two hulls apart. They would have to be built very strong. I would not want to be messing around with any wood involved in the structure or anywhere else for that matter. It needs to be really strong and built so it never comes apart or rots and needs fixing.

Can you imagine how much force that bridgedeck gets hit with when it bottoms out? That's gonna try to make the two hulls flex in different directions, like it's trying to rip the boat apart.

If it can't take it, I don't want it. I want the boat to be able to take more than I ever want to go through. Ya never know when ya might misjudge a wave and fail to slow down enough.
hmmm.
thank you for sharing. That was very helpful
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