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Old 09-30-2016, 11:34 AM
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I love what you're doing here. I wish me and my son had that opportunity to learn like that in school. I did make a mean macaroni necklace though.........
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Awesome thread!
Old 09-30-2016, 02:58 PM
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This will be one of the most memorable times in theses kids lives. You are a great credit to teachers and a true mentor to the kids.
Can you post items the guys need for the project. We are all sitting on all kinds of stuff I'm sure they will need.
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Today we measured and marked the speaker holes. As you can see the console needs a lot of repair but I think the boys are up for it. When we pulled the tank it had a few bad spots so we decided to build a new one. It pressure tested at 130psi and held perfect over night. The boy in the pic built the tank. We also glued some starboard pads to the bottom with 5200 for the tank to sit on. We will epoxy the tank tomorrow. Its back on the dolly so we can start on the deck.We went from a 38 to 35 gallon tank to allow for a easier fit back in.
Cool project. One potential safety concern - was the fuel tank pressure tested to 130 psi or was that a typo? Around 3 psi is what I would expect for a marine fuel tank pressure test. Any more than that and you risk the potential for injury.
Old 09-30-2016, 03:30 PM
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Thanks for the catch. It was 30psi. Sat overnight with no leak down.Being we are talking about the tank .Any thoughts on foaming. Is the two part polyurethane the best way to go?
And how much of the tank should be covered by foam?
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I love this as well. What a great project for these boys. I'm curious as to why the trailer jack is mounted to the side beam of trailer instead of in the middle towards the front. Maybe it doesn't matter without a ton of weight? Anyway, wish I had a project like that when I was in school. Will be following the progress for sure!!!
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We tried to mount it on the tongue but there was no room to swing it up.We measured from the pivot point to the top of the jack with it hooked to my Jeep and this is where it needs to be to swing up in both directions without hitting the tongue.With it hooked to my Jeep this allows me to turn the handle just a couple of times to get the trailer off the ball and swing it up.With the old jack in the middle it took too much time cranking the handle to unhook it.
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this is absolutely awesome. I had shop woodshop and small engine shop in high school and it was an invaluable learning experience where you really learn to do some cool stuff that you will use the rest of your life. Are all the kids interested in it or are some there just to pass time?
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I wish I could an old flats boat like this to restore, she is perfect.


20 yrs from now these boys will remember this project.
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Originally Posted by tillman View Post
We tried to mount it on the tongue but there was no room to swing it up.We measured from the pivot point to the top of the jack with it hooked to my Jeep and this is where it needs to be to swing up in both directions without hitting the tongue.With it hooked to my Jeep this allows me to turn the handle just a couple of times to get the trailer off the ball and swing it up.With the old jack in the middle it took too much time cranking the handle to unhook it.
Sounds like your on point. I was just curious. Props to you and an a unique classroom project. I love it
Old 09-30-2016, 06:39 PM
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Almost all are interested .I always get a couple that are just there, but it is few and far between.Most all of my boys are just good ole country boys who had rather be four wheeling in the mud rather than going to movies or playing video games.
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awesome, I went to a tech school in MA, and had a great teacher as well. School was normally fun, and I use 90% of what I learned in everything I do. It set the basis for the rest of my life, regardless of if I work on boats. Keep up the good work, these kids will look back on this and miss it.
Old 10-01-2016, 09:31 AM
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Default Wiring

We will be in the class room next week learning wiring procedures.
Loads, amps, volts, voltage drop, relays, heat shrink,series,parallel etc.The students will be divided into groups and each group will have to draw a complete wiring diagram for the boat. It will be a test.
Where do you buy your marine wire? Best deal
We will use these as our color guides
These are the most common color codes used in boat wiring.

Black Grounds, General
Black/Brown Pump Grounds
Black/Red Voltmeter Grounds
Black/Orange Isolated Accessory Grounds
Black/Yellow Ignition stop
Black/Green Water Level Sender Ground
Black/Blue Lighting Grounds
Black/Gray Nav Light Grounds
Black/White Battery Parallel Solenoid
Brown Pumps, General, Bilge or Sump (Manually Switched)(Also alternator starter to Ign.)
Brown/Red Pumps, Bilge or Sump
Brown/Orange Power feed to Auto Bilge Switches, Pumps, Fuel/Oil Tranfer or Priming
Brown/Yellow Baitwell or Aerator
Brown/Green Fresh Water Pump/Water Maker
Brown/Blue Head Pump
Brown/Violet Washdown Pump
Brown/White Trim pos sender
Red Battery Feeds Unprotected
Red/Violet Misc. Accy. Main Feed Protected (fused) from batt to trim panel.
Pink Fuel Sender
Orange/Black Audio System Feed
Orange/Brown Electric Head, Sanitation System
Orange/Red Wiper Port
Orange Accessories common feed, Dist Panel to Acc switch, Anode Electrode, Mercathode
Orange/Yellow Diesel Preheat
Orange/Green Wiper Stbd
Orange/Blue Communications Equipment
Orange/Violet Navigation Equipment
Orange/White Wiper Center
Yellow/Black Choke Neutral saftey trans mounted
Yellow/Red Start Solenoid (starting circut), Neutral Safety
Yellow/Orange Powered Ventilation, Fans
Yellow Bilge Blowers (also alternator DC output)
Yellow/White Rudder Angle Sender
Green/Red Stop Solenoid/Kill Switch
Green/Yellow AC Grounding
Green Bonding
Green/White Engine Trim in and or tilt down
Green/Orange Engine Independent Trim down
Blue/Black Cabin Lights
Blue/Brown Oil Temp Send
Blue/Red Cabin or Cockpit Lights Port
Blue/Orange Engine Independent Tilt Up
Blue/Yellow Lighting Circuits to Remote Send
Blue/Green Cabin or Cockpit Lights Stbd
Blue Instrument & General Lighting
Blue/Violet Courtesy, Boarding Lighting
Blue/White Engine Trim Outand/or Tilt Up
Light Blue Oil Pressure
Violet/Red Eng. or Generator B+ from Breaker
Violet/Yellow I/O Trim Up (ballast bypass)
Violet/Green I/O Trim Down
Violet 12v Ignition Generator or Engine
Violet/White Trim "Trailer" switch
Gray/Black Mast Light
Gray/Red Spotlight Remote
Gray/Orange Docking Lights
Gray/Green Strobe or Beacon
Gray/Blue Spreader/Flood Lights
Gray/Violet Windlass/Winch
Gray Navigation (running) Lights, Tach. Send
Gray/White Anchor Light
White/Brown Temp. Alarm or Indicator
White/Red Fuel Alarm or Indicator ((Ignition module to Dist.)Mercury Thunderbolt Ignition)
White/Orange Fire Alarm or Indicator
White/Yellow Air Flow Alarm or Indicator
White/Green Water Press/Flow Alarm or Indicator ((Ignition module to Dist.)Mercury Thunderbolt Ignition)
White/Blue Oil Press Alarm or Indicator
White/Violet Voltage Alarm or Indicator
White General Alarm Usage, Yamaha Kill Switch
Tan Water Temp sender
Tan/Blue Warning system sense wire (Audio warning)
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Very cool!! What a great experience for the boys!!
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Fantastic to see a school that still teaches hands on usefull life skills. Great thread!
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I wish I could have had an option for a class like that when I was in school. Same for my son. I would still love to take an adult education course like that. I often wished some of the commercial tech schools would offer a week course of general boat maintenance. Somewhere like Orlando. Fantasy camps for THTer's.

BTW - didn't they change the recommended color of ground a few years ago from black to yellow?
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Default Tired of sanding

The boys are a little burned out on sanding so we changed the fuel sender to a Wema and test fit and drilled the new lenco Trim Tags and sprayed a little primer today. We also started the first wiring lesson.
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Old 10-05-2016, 07:34 AM
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Now a little wet sanding and buffing. The three boys took turns spraying the engine.They had to paint it twice.The first time it looked like a zebra with all the dark and light streaks. It ended up getting three coats of base then three coats of clear and then wet sanding and another two coats of base to even out the base stripes to make the paint solid and then another three coats of clear. Monday they will wet sand and and buff. We used PPG paint.
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awesome.
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Great job

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