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Old 08-20-2011, 01:15 AM
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Default The Raptor Project .....

Well, as some already know from following our other thread ( In outdoors foto forum here in THT) "The Build of a 1/5 scale Yellowfin" our goal was and still is the build of a 34 feet boat with quite a few departures from standards in regards to design and build, a "honest boat" made how we believe things should be done and with target being the build of only a few boats a year on a semicustom basis and with some minimialistic design philosophy applied to it. The aim being the discerning buyer who likes a bit the use of some exotic materials and building methods

Well the small amount a year will be easiliy met since with the economic recession as we all know the boat market has shrunk by a large margin.

Still, crisis or not we will make some boats which will be a bit euro-taste oriented, but which might have some appeal to boaters anywhere.

We will use epoxy resin in the hull and Vynilester in any other part of the boat, it will be solid fiberglass anywhere below the waterline and Corecell cored above it.

Our first boat made and demo boat should look like this:
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As we have our own CNC flat bed router in the workshop and have been a very long time thinking about this project, we have made in a relatively short time some progress, please bear in mind, that we have started from completely empty premises and that anything we need, very likely will have to be built to fully fulfill our needs this fact making our progress slow sometimes here are some pics of our progress:
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The progress is slow but we are going home everyday with a grin in our faces because the progress shows that our careful planinng is producing flowing results and flowing fair surfaces, even at this early stage of the build .....
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We often get visits from many fishing buddies, some are crazy and some are not, well most are .......... but everyday me make the project move forward some days not much but when things are to be done properly, rushes are never a good company ......
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Looks like things are progressing well. Great to see the update. Keep them coming.
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I´m glad you like it ..........
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Default I began a new job yesterday.

On a temporary contract, might be, or not, long term.
I hope it is.
SEAHUNTER, in Homestead, Florida.
I'm working with one of the best designers in the industry, Mark Biddison.
I've worked with him before, he's very good.
We'll be posting some of our new stuff as it comes along.
There's alot in the making.
I sure enjoy seeing yours.
Please continue to share, we will also.
It's alot of fun, and good to share with all.

Sure isn't a good past time for anyone with a timid checkbook though.

If it does' not work out, look for me on a Miami street corner with a sign that says.....WILL SELL BOATS FOR FOOD.

Keep it comming, GREAT STUFF!
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Default I like it also and I last thought you were on hold til the economy got better?

I also have a question or two. What is the jig stations made from? Do any of the stations stay partially as anchor bulkheads and such? What are you skinning the jig with?
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Looks good. This will be fun to watch.
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I also have a question or two. What is the jig stations made from? Do any of the stations stay partially as anchor bulkheads and such? What are you skinning the jig with?
I think they are using it just as a male mold/plug to splash a female mold after its all faired....I don't see how they can do a solid glass bottom any other way.....there doesn't seem to be any stringers, chine log or sheer band in the jig or that will stay with the finished product.

It's a hell of an investement for sure.....can't wait to see the results

nice job guys....
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I also have a question or two. What is the jig stations made from? Do any of the stations stay partially as anchor bulkheads and such? What are you skinning the jig with?
BLY,
For going on about four years now I, we, have heard....."..........until the economy gets better".
I'm to the point I dont even want to hear the "E" word anymore.
It takes some brass gonads to go forward.
Some have them, some do not.
I'll cast my lot with those that do, and have, otherwise it just boils down to sitting and cursing the darkness.
These guys have some brass gonads, as does' my new employeer. On such a rock you can build a church if you have the stomach, the money, and the resolve.
Hey, I'm looking for an apt in Homestead that I can afford, which wont be much, believe me. Maybe I'll marry a nice Mexican lady, move into a singlewide in Homestead.
But I wont sit wringing my hands, as these guys wont either.
Nor will you.
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Hi Bly and other forum colleagues, in regards to the materials, there are several differences between what is available in europe and the US, the green stuff is hydrofugated chipboard and the tan panels are medium density fiber panel, we preferred the use of those materials because as they do not have any main fiber direction, they behave quite equal in any direction ( anisotrophy I believe this property is called ) the materials are not prone to changing shape due to changes in temperature or moist content.

We are not building a boat here, but a plug for the building of a mould.

In regards to brass and balls, what are we suppose to do? wait for good times ?? , we have too many things to do in our project and we simply can not wait, or we will be too old to be capable of attempting it ............ on the other hand we have been waiting many years to be in a good economic postion in order to be able to even try this adventure, the moment came and we simply could not stop and refuse to try maybe there is more crazyness than brass around here, but we also believe that a good moment to start a bussiness, is probably in the middle of a recession where ( unfortunately) some companies will dissapear and could make your company to be well positioned in the market for when the sun rises ( if it does ......)
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Been following your progress and absolutely top notch project and build guys! Keep it up.

One big question though... I don't think I've seen a picture that had a door big enough to get the boat or moulds through to the outside of your industrial building! :-) How you gonna get it outside!?
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Bout time I have been waiting for this build for a long time.
Congratulation's with the start up, take lot's and lot's of picture's
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Hi mcc113, there is one big door there, only that it seldom appears in the pics ... large enough: 13 feet wide x 15 high ........ but everyone in even those who have been there personally ask the same question ......

Hi vertigo, it has taken us a long time to master the use of the CNC router and to learn many other building techniques as well, not to mention tests of materials ..... we know there is still a long way before putting something in the water so this thread will last for quite a while, probably more than the patience of some ........
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To me, besides the financial aspect of this getting started on it is the hardest part. If you enjoy it and your coworkers do then I'm sure it will be great! Good luck. I will watch the progress.

I was wondering though, on your mock up it has an enclosed bow right? What all are you going to put in there, it looks pretty big compared to others that I have seen although I will say I don't pay much attention to models like that.

Is it going to be more of a pleasure boat? Does the console go down into the bow? Almost looks like it... My boat is named Raptor.
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Hi VanW, first congratulations for having such a good taste in regards to boat names .... and in regards to the enclosed bow, nothing new, just the typical "v" shaped bed, plus a small kitchen with a microwave a small fridge and a bathroom with shower and WC.

Here, across the pond almost everyone considers the center console approach as too radical since it implies large loses of habitable space, I believe it is just a matter of taste, people here favour having some human comfort commodities aboard and consider that for fishing, the rear 1/3 of the boat is the best place and more than enough room ... boaters from different parts of the world have different tastes.

Me and my partner quite like the CC approach, but have to be flexible and consider that our tastes in this regard do not have to be coincidental with the tastes of customers ....

In spite of this we plan on building a few variations of our boat and those include one with an enlarged console and one with a more sheltered cockpit with our own vision of a pilothouse.

Well an image is worth a thousand words so please check, the following pics where the loss of room there is to be payed to gain access to the bow is more than evident .....
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Another epic thread!!!
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Canarianfisher, That is on SICK rendering, good luck and keep up the great work!!!!!
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