Go Back  The Hull Truth - Boating and Fishing Forum > BOATING FORUMS > Boating and Boat Show Photos
Reload this Page >

Danny's Salt Boatworks Flats River Skiff 15 Build

Notices

Danny's Salt Boatworks Flats River Skiff 15 Build

Old 11-10-2020, 07:30 PM
  #1  
Admirals Club Admiral's Club Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Apr 2019
Posts: 130
Received 41 Likes on 32 Posts
Default Danny's Salt Boatworks Flats River Skiff 15 Build

Hey everybody!

Thought I would make a build thread for my Salt Boatworks FRS 15. I've never posted much here. I love reading other people's build threads so I thought I would share mine. Really enjoyed the cold mold construction fight club thread too. Never built a boat before. Only used fiberglass once years and years ago fixing a broken corner on a fiberglass water tank. It still held water last time I used it. So I will be learning as I go. I am usually a pretty handy person. Maybe I will regret saying this... but I think this will be pretty easy and a lot of fun. I have most of the tools I will need. I do think I will need to get a table saw. Maybe try a belt sander too.

I really want to build the Carolina 25 or a B&B Ocracoke 20B. Since I have never really worked with fiberglass, or built a boat I thought I would start with this FRS 15. Much cheaper and easier. We have a condo in Indian Rocks Beach, FL. I fish down there every chance I get. I was fishing from the beach last month watching a guy in a little john boat throw pilchards at a couple tarpon rolling just past the swim buoys. Realizing I couldn't cast that far I decided to order the plans and build something to get me out there! Have a friend that takes me out fishing there all the time. Catch lots of snook, reds, tarpon when they're there, snapper etc... I think this boat will be able to do almost everything his Hewes redfisher did. I can keep it in the ICW and fish around there or head out into Tampa Bay. Think it will be a good fit for me, and if I enjoy it like I think I will a bigger boat build will follow!

Here is a link to the boat plans if you want to buy your own https://saltboatworks.com/product/flats-river-skiff-15/

Hoping to get a new 30hp Suzuki to power it, and a trolling motor on the bow. Couple decisions on hatches, seating and tiller vs console to make down the road.

Picked up my plywood today. Been waiting to start this thread for a while, but now that I have the plywood it feels like a real start. 8 sheets of 6mm and 2 sheets of 9mm Bruynzeel BS1088 Okoume ready to go. I got a great deal on it from Jake at Homestead Hardwoods in OH. I'm in Indiana and could not find anywhere locally to buy it. A couple places sell douglas fir marine ply, but after checking with Adam at Salt Boatworks he said not to use it because the core wasn't fir just the outer skins. Adam was nice enough to call around his place in NC and find some to ship me also, but this Bruynzeel I got was a couple hundred cheaper. I appreciated him finding some for me though. The plywood looks perfect to me. I saw zero knots or voids even on the edges. Much different than what I am used to seeing at the lumberyard. A lot better than the marine douglas fir I was able to find at a local yard. Picture will get better and more exciting, but here it is!




Stacked up waiting! Going to use the OSB and other boards from the crate for the strongback.

Well that's all the progress for today. Plan on making a 4' x 15' strongback this weekend and start cutting out the parts. I have a couple of giant sheets of transfer paper coming tomorrow. Thought I would give that a try to copy the patterns onto the wood. Not sure what is the best idea. I'll put up pics when I am cutting out parts this weekend. I need to check with him to see if he minds me showing pics of the plans/patterns being cut out.

Adam has also designed some new jig or cradle to build the boat on. Hopefully I can get the plans for that and build it next week also.

I plan on using epoxy from boat builder central called marinepoxy. Need to order that this week unless someone has a better or cheaper option. I need 6 gallons. No idea where to get the actual fiberglass cloth... I need 25 yards – 10 oz cloth 50″ wide and 10 yards – 1208 biaxial cloth 50″ wide. Going to ask around see if I can get it local. Would be easier to build this in FL, but I have no barn or garage down there to work in.

That's it for now! Hopefully I didn't make any mistakes yet! If you know where to get good deals on the epoxy or fiberglass cloth let me know. Hopefully by the end of next week I will be gluing scarf or scarph? joints together and zipping the hull together!

Thanks, Danny


Likes:
Old 11-10-2020, 11:10 PM
  #2  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Kasilof, alaska
Posts: 192
Received 67 Likes on 35 Posts
Default

Give the guys a BBC a call. They can ship your glass with the epoxy. I have used a lot of their epoxy and it has never given me any problems.
Old 11-11-2020, 09:03 AM
  #3  
Admirals Club Admiral's Club Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Miami, FL
Posts: 2,044
Likes: 0
Received 329 Likes on 189 Posts
Default

I'll be following. This is my next project for sure.
Old 11-11-2020, 10:11 AM
  #4  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 922
Received 242 Likes on 149 Posts
Default

Cool! I love build threads like this!
Old 11-11-2020, 04:30 PM
  #5  
Admirals Club Admiral's Club Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Apr 2019
Posts: 130
Received 41 Likes on 32 Posts
Default

Thanks guys! I am looking forward to making progress and having good pics to post. I love these threads too.

I will give boat builder central a call. They seemed really nice last time I called and asked about plywood.

Not much progress today. Put some of the plywood onto sawhorses and sandwiched the plans inside. They were shipped rolled up in a tube. Thought this might flatten them out so they will be easier to trace or use the transfer paper. The transfer paper is arriving Friday. 24" x 20' long... I think it will work... Maybe!

Other than cleaning and organizing the part of the barn where I will be building nothing else happened today. Abandoned the first strongback idea last week planning on starting the new one tomorrow.


Old 11-14-2020, 06:40 PM
  #6  
Admirals Club Admiral's Club Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Apr 2019
Posts: 130
Received 41 Likes on 32 Posts
Default

Got the strongback finished. It is 12'3" x 5' and 28" tall. I did not know how tall to make it. Went with the some height as my favorite sawhorses. Figure that if it is too tall easy enough to just chop 6" or so off the legs. Like I said... learning as I go. Built it out of all used lumber. Had a big shelf from my warehouse I had taken down and I also used the crate the okoume was shipped in. I hate oriented strand board, but I figure it just needs to support the cradle.



It's plenty strong I think. I know OSB does not hold screws well. I put a 2x4 laid on it's side where every station of the cradle will go. Figure that way I will be able to screw in some supports to hold the stations in place. The widest station is just less than 5' that is why I made it 5' wide. The width is one of the reasons it is so screwy underneath. Also supporting the 1' strip of OSB down the side. Probably better ways to go about it, but it cost me $0.



Big and flat! Well flat for the most part. There are a couple spots where the OSB bulges. Mostly on the edge where it is damaged that I will buzz off with a belt sander or angle grinder if it gets in the way. Sat a 6' level across and it is just as level as the floor. No wobbles. I think it will do everything I need it to.




Stole that from the Salt Boatworks Instagram page. I did talk to Adam about showing pics of the plans/drawings. So I don't have to worry about him tasering me. The cradle is my next project. I just got some drawings with measurements. Didn't ask for the full size plans printed out. Maybe I should have to practice tracing the patterns. I won't screw down the cradle until after all the boat parts are cut out I figured I would use cutting it out as practice before I get to the expensive okoume, and I will use the strongback like a big table to trace and cut the parts.




Station one all traced out. Figuring it out slowly. I will get the others done tomorrow, and hopefully have the cradle sitting up on the table. Used 1/2" MDF for the stations. The plans call for "standard plywood". I hope the MDF will be fine. If not I will do it again... It was cheap flat and easy to draw on. I don't think lofting is the right term, but transferring the measurements from the drawing to the MDF full size was more difficult than I thought. The plans I got have measurements like 5.29 inches. Transferring 5.29" to what is on a ruler or measuring tape took some time. 6th grade math is tough 30 years later! I was kind of concerned at first realizing that I need to mark 3/64th's of an inch... but after thinking about it and running to the art store to see if I could find some amazing ruler I came to the realization it's not brain surgery. Stopped worrying so much. I also realize the more accurate my measurements and cuts are now the easier it will be to fair later. So I will do the best I can but, I can see how having the wood CNC cut would be really cool. That was just a little more than double the cost for me though.

I'll keep at it. look for a pic of the cradle together tomorrow.
Old 11-14-2020, 08:21 PM
  #7  
Admirals Club Admiral's Club Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: South Creek Village
Posts: 5,823
Received 668 Likes on 342 Posts
Default

As someone who wants to do this one day, and started a thread asking about all the tools needed to do so, I am curious what the technical term for those rulers are? Thank you!
Old 11-15-2020, 05:11 AM
  #8  
Admirals Club Admiral's Club Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Apr 2019
Posts: 130
Received 41 Likes on 32 Posts
Default

The rulers in my picture are just a couple of speed square's from Lowes. The big T shaped one is a drywall square also from Lowes. The two steel rulers are just architects rulers with cork on the back. They are marked out to 1/32".

I went to the store last night hoping to fid one that measured from the end and couldn't. Every ruler I saw had a little space before the o mark. Was also looking for one of the architects rulers in mm. I found it easier to use mm rather than trying to figure out how much 9/64" was. No luck on either at the Hobby Lobby they had rulers just like I already did.

I am sure I could order something cool online, but I will be done with these stations today and moving onto the next step.
Likes:
Old 11-15-2020, 05:30 PM
  #9  
Admirals Club Admiral's Club Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Apr 2019
Posts: 130
Received 41 Likes on 32 Posts
Default

Had to stop working on the skiff today and go help a friend. Got all the cradle stations marked onto the MDF. Cut out 2 of the 5. I think they are turning out pretty good.

I thought I would share a couple tricks I picked up...

First buy a sheet of thick insulation board. This one is 2"



Put your plywood on top when cutting to keep it flat. Set the depth of cut on your saw just below the plywood and it barely even scores the foam board. Works great board doesn't bow between the sawhorses, and the saw doesn't get that little bit more difficult to push when you run into the sawhorses. I also cut 2" off the foam sheet so the sides of the plywood hang over the edges enough that I can clamp on my generic track saw. I would love one of those Festool tracksaws, but wow they aren't cheap!




Can barely even see the cut marks. I saw a guy cutting a sheet of mahogany plywood on a foam board years ago thought it was brilliant. Glad I remembered for this project. Next tip I picked up here from Boat Nut who is building the Salt Boatworks Carolina 25. He ground off the bottom of his jigsaw blade so he could cut his plywood using 2x4's for spacers. Figured I would give it a try so it doesn't tear up the foam so much. I clamped the blade in the vise made a couple strokes with a hacksaw and snapped it off. Worked like a charm!




Two stations down and three to go




That's all I have for today. I'll get the others done tomorrow afternoon!
Likes:
Old 11-16-2020, 05:14 AM
  #10  
Senior MemberCaptains Club Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Boynton Beach Islamorada(VRBO49422)
Posts: 3,273
Received 1,190 Likes on 626 Posts
Default

subscribed. good luck and keep posting.
Old 11-16-2020, 03:48 PM
  #11  
Admirals Club Admiral's Club Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Apr 2019
Posts: 130
Received 41 Likes on 32 Posts
Default

Thanks kennyboy appreciate it. I will keep at it and posting. I have been thinking of doing this for like 30 years dreaming of building hydroplanes from Glen-L and Clarkcraft ads in the back of my dad's Woodenboat magazines. There will be a lull after Thanksgiving when I head back to FL to go fishing, but I'll be back at it after Christmas.


Didn't get a ton done today. All the stations are cut. Pretty happy with how they turned out. One has a spot where I tilted the saw when I pulled it out of the end. Should be fine and I will try to even it out some.

Here is the cradle set up there to check it out. Just a test fit to get an idea what it would look like. When the time comes I will get it all square and lined up to the best of my ability.




I think it turned out well. I was really struggling to see any marks on the OSB. So I ran to the shop and got a gallon of $5 mystery baby blue paint that someone never picked up from Dave the paint guy. Now I will be able to mark it up to get everything lined up. Going to give it another coat tomorrow while I start tracing the patterns onto the okoume.



That's it for today
Old 11-16-2020, 05:50 PM
  #12  
Admirals Club Admiral's Club Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: SoCal
Posts: 395
Received 186 Likes on 94 Posts
Default

Looking good!
Likes:
Old 11-17-2020, 04:55 PM
  #13  
Admirals Club Admiral's Club Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Apr 2019
Posts: 130
Received 41 Likes on 32 Posts
Default

YeahYeah your build is great! Been watching it almost since the beginning. Hoping mine turns out as well as your's has.

Had a great day out in the barn today. The transfer paper worked like a charm. I was really shocked at how well it worked. $9.99 for a 2' x 24' long roll. I figured it would be crap.

Here was my test patch tracing the part numbers 5C




Worked perfectly and erases with a pencil eraser. Just did that for fun to see how it worked with different tools. Just a plain pencil worked the best. I thought about going to look for a stylus like for an iPad or something. Next I traced half the floor.







There you can see the kinda finished product. I think it worked great. I have a couple 4' brass rods I think 1/8" diameter that i will use as battens to straighten up the curves with a pencil. I thought I could markup one piece of plywood at a time, but they way the plans are printed I think it's better to do all of them at once. The patterns are nested into each other on the full size drawings. 10 sheets of ply and I think 5 or 6 pages of full size patterns. So you have to cut one pattern up to get to another. Not sure I explained that well, but I need to do the tracing in the order the patterns are coming apart... not the way I was planning. I put another coat of baby blue onto the strongback so it was wet. Tomorrow I'll have that 12' to spread everything around and it will go much easier. I was really happy that the transfer paper worked better than I expected though.
Old 11-17-2020, 06:33 PM
  #14  
Admirals Club Admiral's Club Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: SoCal
Posts: 395
Received 186 Likes on 94 Posts
Default

Just a word of advice when cutting those curves with a jigsaw. I found that when cutting with a jigsaw the blade liked to wander some. It wouldn't always cut at 90 degrees to the surface of the plywood either. Doing some research, a downcut blade was recommended to help alleviate that, and it did. It cut a much truer line.
Old 11-17-2020, 06:42 PM
  #15  
Admirals Club Admiral's Club Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Apr 2019
Posts: 130
Received 41 Likes on 32 Posts
Default

Thanks YeahYeah I am looking into that now. Never heard of a downcut blade. I'll probably be cutting by Friday.
Old 11-17-2020, 08:28 PM
  #16  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: The South Coast
Posts: 1,131
Received 1,553 Likes on 566 Posts
Default

Looking good! Those Salt FRS skiffs are nice looking boats - congratulations on getting the build underway!

MarinEpoxy from BBC has always been good to me... little or no amine blush, mixes up nicely, glues up, stays stuck.

Enjoy the build, I will be watching when not building/updating myself.
Old 03-31-2021, 06:14 PM
  #17  
Admirals Club Admiral's Club Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Apr 2019
Posts: 130
Received 41 Likes on 32 Posts
Default

Well... I got busy with work for a while and then my usual couple weeks in FL right before Christmas turned into 3.5 months due to some family problems... But I got back a couple weeks ago and work on the boat has started again. All the plans are traced onto the ply this week. Started making my first cuts today.




Epoxy will be here Saturday according to UPS and the fiberglass on Monday! Still have to pick up some lumber for the stringers, strakes and rub rails. I think I might use Douglas Fir from Home Depot and mill it down with the table saw I still need to buy! Not sure yet. The local lumberyard has some really nice super straight clear grain cedar but it is only 5/8" thick. I need 1"x1" and 3/4" x 1.5" we will see, The other boatbuilding suitable lumber they have is really rough sawn and would need a lot more milling than I have the tools to do at this point.

Anyway... I am excited to be back working on the boat. Figured I would wake up this thread! Should be lots of progress in the next couple weeks the weather is fantastic!

By the end of the weekend I should be scarfing plywood. Still need to figure out how to make the router jig I saw in Adam's youtube video.

Likes:
Old 04-01-2021, 05:56 AM
  #18  
Admirals Club Admiral's Club Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: SoCal
Posts: 395
Received 186 Likes on 94 Posts
Default

You might ask that lumber yard if they will mill you what you need. I had a lumber yard do that for me. I bought all the plans called for at once, so it was a decent sized order ($3,000, included the milling fee).
Old 04-01-2021, 04:00 PM
  #19  
Admirals Club Admiral's Club Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Apr 2019
Posts: 130
Received 41 Likes on 32 Posts
Default

YeahYeah you are right I do need to call them. The only local lumberyard that sells this kind of stuff was less than helpful when I started. They do sell marine plywood. Okoume and fir, but didn't have the thicknesses I needed. I asked if they would order what I needed in their next shipment and she said nope! She did tell me where they got it from 3 hours away and I could just drive there. Same for the lumber they have 1"x6" special clear straight grain boatbuilding cedar... But in reality it's like 11/16"x 5 1/4" I think the plans are calling for actual 1"x1" so I need to figure out if they will make it or if I need to do it myself. Just got the feeling they are more interested in selling what is on the shelf which is sad I actually had fond memories of this place from when I was a kid going with my dad. After their answers to me last fall I kinda don't want to go back ever.

Plans call for "120 linear feet of 1"x1" stock cypress, juniper or fir" 120 feet seems like too much for the stringers or deck beams as he calls them in the plans. It's just a 15' boat. I might be misunderstanding something on the plans. Or maybe 120 linear feat isn't a 120 foot ling piece of 1"x1" like I think it is. Need to do some more research before I go talk to them.
Old 04-05-2021, 04:22 PM
  #20  
Admirals Club Admiral's Club Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Apr 2019
Posts: 130
Received 41 Likes on 32 Posts
Default

Well.... Seems everything is taking three times longer than I think it will! But that is ok ... I am having lots of fun. This was the last sheet of the 1/4" plywood. All the parts are cut out. I am not going to cut out the big pieces of the 3/8" ply with the deck and gunwhales until the end. Not exactly sure what I want to do with the deck layout yet. The strongback table I built is going to get a little redesign tomorrow. That OSB scrap I had sucks. It was a bad Idea to paint it too. The paint kind of raised the grain and now I get a splinter every time I touch it. I bought some 5mm underlayment ply today. I'll cover it tomorrow and hopefully start making the router scarfing sled. I read a lot about them and watched Adam's youtube video about 500 times. Hopefully it is as simple as it looks to set up. Need to fix the lighting mess above my table too. Can't stand that all my new light fixtures came with plugs instead of just wires to tie into my existing junction box up there.

Not an exciting pic just the last few pieces being cut out



Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service - Do Not Sell My Personal Information -

Copyright © 2021 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.