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Old 05-08-2017, 01:39 PM   #21
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Harper,

You have a good point.

There are a lot more sport boats chasing tuna now than 20 years ago.

I think 4 stroke motors and GPS navigation have made it a lot easier for sporties to chase albacore.

Terrafin and other SST services make it a lot easier to figure out where the fish are and when they should show up, plus Bloodydecks and Ifish make it pretty easy for a newbie to get fairly reliable intel.

Last year we had VERY good fishing in early June and there definitely were fish around in late May.

I can't wait to see when they show up this year.
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Harper,

You have a good point.

There are a lot more sport boats chasing tuna now than 20 years ago.

I think 4 stroke motors and GPS navigation have made it a lot easier for sporties to chase albacore.

Terrafin and other SST services make it a lot easier to figure out where the fish are and when they should show up, plus Bloodydecks and Ifish make it pretty easy for a newbie to get fairly reliable intel.

Last year we had VERY good fishing in early June and there definitely were fish around in late May.

I can't wait to see when they show up this year.
I think the advancement in available SST and chloro data for sport guys has been huge for that fishery. The near coastal water is so cold and so green that finding that hard line is what makes the fishery pop off. The fish are so concentrated on that hard temp/color break that it makes for crazy action. It's interesting to note that the fish size average in the commercial troll fleet is significantly smaller than the sport fleet, my theory on that is that the leading edge fish (the ones feeding on the break) are the largest in average of the biomass, the commercial guys concentrate their efforts far offshore in the heart of the biomass and seem to average a good 5# less with their catch.
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I think the advancement in available SST and chloro data for sport guys has been huge for that fishery. The near coastal water is so cold and so green that finding that hard line is what makes the fishery pop off. The fish are so concentrated on that hard temp/color break that it makes for crazy action. It's interesting to note that the fish size average in the commercial troll fleet is significantly smaller than the sport fleet, my theory on that is that the leading edge fish (the ones feeding on the break) are the largest in average of the biomass, the commercial guys concentrate their efforts far offshore in the heart of the biomass and seem to average a good 5# less with their catch.
Don't know if I'd trust the word of this guy
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Don't know if I'd trust the word of this guy
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Yup, love it. TANK!!!! Nothing like a Carolina Classic man, but you know that. Been tuff so far this winter spring, but a few fish around.
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Awesome. Early season Fishing has been decent on WCVI from what I've heard. I've been in the Bahamas since the beginning of April so no first hand knowledge
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Interesting discussion re the Albies. Thanks for sharing.

I grew up working the sport fishing boats in the 70's. The old timers would show me photos of 6 ft tall Black Sea bass they would catch off the pier in the 40's.

Between fishing pressure and water temp changes, things are different now.

Well, at least we have plenty of Great White sharks around now. 15 juvies off Capo last week. I know we are seeing them more with folks on Sups, and then instant sharing on social media, but it is much more sharky now
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I think the advancement in available SST and chloro data for sport guys has been huge for that fishery. The near coastal water is so cold and so green that finding that hard line is what makes the fishery pop off. The fish are so concentrated on that hard temp/color break that it makes for crazy action. It's interesting to note that the fish size average in the commercial troll fleet is significantly smaller than the sport fleet, my theory on that is that the leading edge fish (the ones feeding on the break) are the largest in average of the biomass, the commercial guys concentrate their efforts far offshore in the heart of the biomass and seem to average a good 5# less with their catch.

We pushed that cold line close inshore in 2015 and had everything break off until we upgraded the leaders. At 50 miles out in 5000ft of water near the end of the canyon in 65F water, they ran 20-25lb. Closer in like 28-30 miles in 900-1600 feet and 61F water, it was more like 33-35lb, and time from hook-up to gaff MUCH longer.
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We pushed that cold line close inshore in 2015 and had everything break off until we upgraded the leaders. At 50 miles out in 5000ft of water near the end of the canyon in 65F water, they ran 20-25lb. Closer in like 28-30 miles in 900-1600 feet and 61F water, it was more like 33-35lb, and time from hook-up to gaff MUCH longer.
Seems inline with my data. Although averaged over an entire season both the far offshore and near offshore weights end up significantly less than those numbers in my experience.

My commercial boat sees 15# average trip after trip, it's almost a guarantee. Interestingly, the biggest Albies I've ever seen were on that troller, a 48 and a 46 caught at the exact same time, we also caught 100 fish at 12#, the average for the day? you guessed it, 15#...
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BD is really good for fishing info for Cali and the Pacific coast of Mexico. But,whenit comes to boats, I like to joke that they get a blank look other faces you mention anything other than a Skipjack. The modern sport of big game sport fishing may have been invented in SoCal, but the modern big game fishing BOAT was invented in South Florida. ;-)
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BD is really good for fishing info for Cali and the Pacific coast of Mexico. But,whenit comes to boats, I like to joke that they get a blank look other faces you mention anything other than a Skipjack. The modern sport of big game sport fishing may have been invented in SoCal, but the modern big game fishing BOAT was invented in South Florida. ;-)

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