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Old 11-08-2012, 03:31 PM
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I discussed getting a new truck with my wife, as our old truck is getting on in years. I thought about the F-150, but have decided to go with a 3/4 ton diesel instead. Can anyone give me some real world numbers, MPG, power, reliability? I have one shot at this and would like to make the right choice.
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Tomorrow Friday will be 2 weeks in my 2013 2500,Duramax So far So good.You can see it on my thread below last 2 pages...Lots of TORQUE....
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If you going to keep the truck for a long time i am not sure why you would buy the last model year. If saving money is the object then I understand. If Iwas keeping the truck for 5 or more years and was buying now I would buy the ford. If you want GM and are going to keep the truck for awhile I would wait for the new body if your situation allows. Sorry I cant help with real world numbers.
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Cummins makes the best diesel motor.
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They are both great trucks and power and MPG are gonna be neck and neck. Go drive them and see which you like best. I personaly would much rather have the last model year then the first. The one thing the Chevy has up on the Ford is the Tranny.
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Cummins makes the best diesel motor.
On top of the worst: transfer case, suspension, appearance, interior, etc.

Did you read the question or do you just impulsively have to add that when any diesel question comes up?

I have a 2012 Duramax,
16.9 mpg lifetime, reliability well no problems yet, power is great but they all are, the 2013 ford upped the ante but can you really tell a difference in 450 vs 500 ftlbs of torque.
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I have an 11 Denali HD with 55k miles. My dash says 16.6 lifetime and I don't drive it easy. Not one problem.
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Does ford still use the torqshift transmission in the new trucks?
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That Govt Motors truck is the ugliest truck EVER produced...
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They are both great trucks and power and MPG are gonna be neck and neck. Go drive them and see which you like best. I personaly would much rather have the last model year then the first. The one thing the Chevy has up on the Ford is the Tranny.
Ford tranny can hang with the allison. The torqshift is a good unit. Good advice from Buzz though, go drive them.
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My 2013 Chevy 3500 is on order now and I should have it in a few weeks. I decided on the 2013 over the 2014 because I don't like the dash on the 2014s - reminds too much of a Dodge or Ford. The HD GMs will not be out till October so you would need to wait 11 months for the GM. We have Fords as company trucks and all of them have worse fit and finish and are louder than an LT level Chevy. If you go with the Ford I would recommend the King Ranch or Platnum edition for fit and finish. You should also do a search for Diesel Power magazine Rocky Mountain Shootouts. The reviews show that the Ford performs better at sea level, but the GM wins in the mountains and the exhaust brake and Allison are the best down hill. Both good trucks with similar performance. Pick the one you are more comfortable driving.
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Ford more all around quality, interior doesnt as cheap as the rest and that new transmission is supposed to be better than the allison
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I would buy neither. If you insist on buying a new truck go for a 2012 Dodge without the nitrate tank that they have to have on all new diesels now. Chevy has had them on their diesels for a while now. It is kind of your last chance to buy a diesel without the euro regs attached to it...........
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That Govt Motors truck is the ugliest truck EVER produced...
"Govt Motors". Very original. You think that one up on your own or did you hear it from one of your buddies while out noodling.....

My question would be why the OP decided to move up to a 3/4 ton Diesel. An F-150 or any other 1/2 ton should be able to pull a 19' Grady without the additional expense and will ride much better. Granted, the new HD trucks are nice (I have an 11 Denali HD gasser which I need for both work and towing) but there are also downsides to having a 3/4 or 1 ton as a daily driver.

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I discussed getting a new truck with my wife, as our old truck is getting on in years. I thought about the F-150, but have decided to go with a 3/4 ton diesel instead. Can anyone give me some real world numbers, MPG, power, reliability? I have one shot at this and would like to make the right choice.
Harley I don't think there is really a big statistical difference between the two. Power is more than enough from both, reliability has been good on both and the mpg's also seem close. I have a 2011 250 FX4 Lariat PSD with 3.55 axles and lifetime mpg at almost 15,000 miles total is 16.8. In town in heavy stop and go it will be 10-12 mpg. In a good city driving situation with less stop and go it will be mid teens and unloaded highway in good conditions at 70 you can see 21-22 mpg. All around highway is more like 18 mpg or so. All around city is about 13-14 and most see 15-16 mpg total all around. Towing is obviously all over the map depending on load and conditions but expect 10-12 mpg highway with a decent load.

The Duramax and PSD put down about the same power and just about every dyno shows that. The difference is the Duramax is more linear and its power builds until it peaks its power at the top of its rpm range. The PSD surges power from about 1,600 rpm to its peak power at around 2,700 rpm and begins diving off until it shifts around 3,200 rpm. They feel a little different but power is not an issue, ever.

Interior is very much a personal opinion thing. Spend at least an hour or two in each one without the salesman so you can really get a feel for each. Good time of year to buy right now. 2012's should be 9-10k off msrp.
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All have good power, the Ford has 400Hp, and 800lbft of torque. Not sure you can find a trailer that any HD won't pull. The Ford engine was designed from a "clean sheet of paper" for current emissions, high HP/TQ and new for the 2011 MY.
Drive them all and decide. Do lots of internet snooping(as you are here) prior to plopping down the $50K.
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I have a LML dually and average 15mpg. Great truck
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Harley- The best advise I can offer has already been given, drive them both and decide for yourself. I have a 2011 F350 CC 3:55 and 20" tires and after 23,000 miles the truck has been flawless for me. Interstate economy is 20-21 mpg at 65 mph, around town is 15-17 mpg and towing my 29 Reg CC at 55 is 11-12 mpg. The Bluetooth in my F350 performs better than my M45 Infiniti and so does the heated & cooled seats. I have electronic locking rear diff that works well when I'm pulling the decoy trailer in muddy farm fields. Best of luck with what ever truck you go with, both are impressive trucks.
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I have a 2011 F350 SRW 20mpg on interstate 65mph at 70+ it will drop to 18. pulling a Everglades 243cc 70mph will get 10-12 mpg. Pulling a 24,000# goose neck trailer 9-10 mpg. plenty of power and no problems so far.
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