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Old 01-30-2012, 05:30 AM
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Just thinking about all the Ford motor saga and in my mind put together my idea of the dream truck, Caterpiller Diesel with an Allison tranny. I believe that combo would trump all.
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heard rumors of that combo years ago from GM, before they went with current set-up. word i heard was Cat required too long of a warranty that GM refused to offer, so no deal...
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Why? It would probably weigh another 1,000# and cost $20k more. Ford put their diesel engine saga to bed about two years ago by parting ways with Navistar and making their own diesel. The new engine is the most powerful one out and has no issues.
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My dream truck would be an F250 with a cummins and an allison
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I was speaking to a Ford Diesel Tec and he told me the new 6.4 has many issues that make it look like the first few years of the 6.0. Im my oppinion I would go back to the 7.3 platform. And correct me if I am wrong but dosent Navistar make the 6.4??
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I agree with the cummins but figured it would not be possible with Dodge in the mix
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Ford Actually owns Cummins. I wouldn't doubt that it will be done one day. Till then I will continue to drive my Dodge. BTW the new Cummins trucks have an Allison Trans, they just didn't pay for the badging.
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I was speaking to a Ford Diesel Tec and he told me the new 6.4 has many issues that make it look like the first few years of the 6.0. Im my oppinion I would go back to the 7.3 platform. And correct me if I am wrong but dosent Navistar make the 6.4??
The new motor is the 6.7...
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I have a friend that took a Cat our of a school bus with a allison trans, and shoe horned it in a 1978 Ford 4x4 crewcab. The only problem with it is the gearing in the trans. Needs another gear or the rear end ratios changed. Only winds up to around 55mph.
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I was speaking to a Ford Diesel Tec and he told me the new 6.4 has many issues that make it look like the first few years of the 6.0. Im my oppinion I would go back to the 7.3 platform. And correct me if I am wrong but dosent Navistar make the 6.4??
That's scary because that Ford diesel tech should know that the 6.4 has been retired for a couple years now and the new motor is the Ford design and built 6.7 powerstroke which has been in the trucks for two years now. Ford retained rights to the Powerstroke name. The tech probably only knows the 6.0 and 6.4 because I doubt he sees the 6.7 for anything except oil changes. Go take a drive in the new 6.7 with new 6 speed tranny. Besides not having a cool name like Caterpillar or Cummins I think you'll be very impressed. I doubt you'll find too many of us 6.7 PSD owners wishing for a Cat, Cummins, old 7.3 or anything else. The engine is awesome.
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I heard that Toyota is going to have the Cat diesel in their big trucks for 2013.
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Have seen more than one 2nd gen SD (2008+) badged as an F450 or F550 with CAT/Cummins/Allison combinations up here in CT. Have not spoken with my local truck Outfitter dealer in a few years, but thinking it is available.

Would wait a few years more before committing $$$$ or making statements about any new motors, especially considering the 6L PSD track record.
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Why F250? The suspension is crude at best and pre-historic at worst. Too much grill on the present models for me also.

On another note; picked up my boat the other day from the shop (minor winter time maint stuff) and the owner of the boat shop was telling me a friend had dropped his brand new F250 PSD off at the Ford dealership a couple of weeks earlier and had called the bank and told them where to find it. Said the radiator was leaking and the turbos were blown and Ford refused to warranty any of the work. Said they wanted maint records and the guy didn't have any since he changes his own oil, etc. This is all second or third hand info so I don't put a lot of weight on it but the boat-dealer owner swears it was a brand new truck with th 6.7 in it. First I've heard of any problems with the new PSD. Wonder if it's true?
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There's always a fluke but my truck has 25k trouble free miles on it now. Everyone I know with the 6.7 is in the same boat.
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Fummins ..........does it for me!

http://fordcummins.com/..........(no affiliation )

Love my 12V Cummins!..........but my truck is falling apart...........so
take it and put it in a Ford F250
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Just thinking about all the Ford motor saga and in my mind put together my idea of the dream truck, Caterpiller Diesel with an Allison tranny. I believe that combo would trump all.

Information I have is you can get that combination, Cat diesel and Allison tranny in a Ford, a Ford F650 that is, I looked in to buying a F650 couple years ago, it was my understanding then that both the Cat and the Cummings with Allison tranny were options.
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Why F250? The suspension is crude at best and pre-historic at worst. Too much grill on the present models for me also.
I fail to see how a radius arm, coil suspension live-axle rig is "crude" or even prehistoric. The design is much, much stronger and more durable than the IFS underneath a comparable Chevy or GMC.
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I heard that Toyota is going to have the Cat diesel in their big trucks for 2013.
I doubt it. They were saying that in 2007. They had a dually 1 ton at a auto show, but it went by the way side. They were talking about putting the Hino engine in it.
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If ford owns cummings maybe what they are making is a twin.
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