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Old 12-05-2011, 05:39 PM
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Default "Maunfacturers recommend not to balance your trailer tires"

I was told this today by Eastern Marine. I purchased 4 rims and tires (ST205/75r14 on galvanized rims) from them and went to have them balanced...and the tire shop (a national chain--Treadquarters) said all 4 rims were bent and they could not balance them. They tried to balance on a road force balance machine.

I've never heard this one before. Thoughts?
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bent rims can be balanced but not as well as if rim is straight. balancing is done in one plane and if bent, there are now two planes.
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bent rims can be balanced but not as well as if rim is straight. balancing is done in one plane and if bent, there are now two planes.
Okay...

Ever hear anything about trailer tire manufacturers recommending to not balance their tires?

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I have never had any trailer tires balanced and I have replaced many. I'm not sure of the reason though.
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I balance all of my trailer tires and get long life out of them, plus the trailer pulls more smoothly. It amazes me to see an unloaded trailer to go bouncing down the road at highway speeds. The trailer wheels are still out of balance when loaded with a boat, you just don't realize it.
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I always have my trailer tires balanced.
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Had this last set of new tires balanced, first thing I noticed is now when I look back in the mirror the boat trailer fenders don't flap at highway speed anymore.
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Had this last set of new tires balanced, first thing I noticed is now when I look back in the mirror the boat trailer fenders don't flap at highway speed anymore.
I thought that was normal...guess I should get the trailer tires balanced!
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Periodically I see these kind of threads and the BS that otherwise reasonable outfits put forward is just plain aggravating... Balance any tires on your trailer and you'll get a longer life (yes, the crude nature of some galvanized trailer rims can be difficult to balance, but it's still worth doing). I tow a small skiff an average of 20,000 miles a year - and that's for about 15 years now.... I expect, and get, 20,000 on a set of tires and usually run them until they pop (or are obviously failing). I'd never get that kind of service without balancing them, period. Since I run radials, I'll occasionally see a wheel that looks badly out of balance.... when you look closely you'll usually see that the radial belt under the tread has worked free and shifted. What you end up with is a tire that's seriously out of round and needs replacing before it pops...

By the way I come from a very hard school about trailer tires. My first year guiding I popped five trailer tires in one year (and never got to change one out in daylight --- you haven't lived until you get to change a tire in the Everglades about one hour before dawn.. or change one out in rush hour at night along a busy highway.). I finally learned not to use the same tires that the manufacturer had used and did much, much better... Although I'm only running a single axle trailer, I still carry two spares at all times. Some lessons stick with you.
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"Maunfacturers recommend not to balance your trailer tires"

Manufacturers of what, tires? Rims?

Pure, unadulterated BS. Did they show you that statement in a printed warrantee or manual, or on a manufacturers web site? I didn't think so.

I always balance my trailer tires.
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how bout doing it just for the pure fact of the hub bearings? why wouldn't you ballance trailer tires?
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the title of the thread doesnt even vaguely resemble the op...

if the wheels were bent they should be replaced...road force balancing matches tires and wheels for the best performance and takes into account the imperfections in tires by running them on a roller while balancing...also measuring wheel runout for proper tire placement on the wheel...its not to make up for bent wheels...

i cant imagine any tire manufacturer not recommending a balance...
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Send them back to the retailer and get straight wheels. I bought a set of wheels and tires and one was bent, from what I hear its common to get a bent one. Most galvanized rims are just like anything else these days, cheap made in china goods. Your rim was probably mishandled or stacked on the bottom of the pallet.
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No..the title of the thread doesn't vaguely resemble many of the responses. I dont think many people read the post.

I know the tires should be balanced; I've always done that on my trailers. The question was if anyone had ever heard a trailer tire or rim manufacturer state this.

From the post above about whether it was the tire or rim manufacturer who said this..Easteen Marine was not clear; they stated "manufacturer". I took that to mean the tire manufacturer, but I could be wrong.

Eastern marine..can you expand on this?

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the title of the thread doesnt even vaguely resemble the op...

if the wheels were bent they should be replaced...road force balancing matches tires and wheels for the best performance and takes into account the imperfections in tires by running them on a roller while balancing...also measuring wheel runout for proper tire placement on the wheel...its not to make up for bent wheels...

i cant imagine any tire manufacturer not recommending a balance...
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I have never heard that before, and I have gone through a good amount of trailer tires.
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Old 12-06-2011, 06:55 AM
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Ive asked Eastern Marine to address it. Lets see what they say.
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IMO trailer tires should be balanced but road force balancing is overkill. If I am repacking my bearings when I get new tires I'll just balance them on the ungreased hub. Otherwise I use a Harbor Freight bubble balancer.
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I bought a brand new dual axle trailer, empty/no boat on it, in 2007. Started to drive from Gibsonton FL to Dania FL and as soon as I got on the highway the entire truck shook and the trailer was about bouncing down the road.

I had to pull over and see what was going on and I looked at all the wheels and saw NO wheel weights. Thankfully, just off the next exit there was a tire shop on the side of the road, they balanced all the wheels and when I got back on the highway, it was smooth as smooth can be.

I always have my trailer tires and could not care less what any manufacturer says.
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IMO trailer tires should be balanced but road force balancing is overkill. If I am repacking my bearings when I get new tires I'll just balance them on the ungreased hub. Otherwise I use a Harbor Freight bubble balancer.
Road force balancing is a joke...expensive overkill. It will detect a poorly laid up tire, but there's no balancing which will compensate for sloppy carcass construction.

Raced SCCA for years. Goodyear, Hoosier, others mounted and balanced expensive racing tires and wheels. Good old bubble balancers.

Like this poster says..I balance my trailer stuff on the trailer. Wait for the wheel to stop spinning with heavy side down, tack a weight on the top, spin it again. When it stops spinning in random positions it's balanced adequately.

This ain't rocket surgery.
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I always balance my trailer tires, and have come to believe that the amount of weight required to balance a tire may be a gross indication of tire quality. I've got a fairly good idea of how much weight my car and truck tires have typically needed, and it seems as though the better quality tires have not required much weight to balance them.
A few years back I took the wheels and tires from my then new boat trailer in to have them balanced, and the guy at the tire store told me it wasn't necessary for trailer tires. I insisted, and when I came back to pick them up he had not only changed his mind about the need to balance them but was also recommending that I use the ones that needed the most weight as spares. Those tires started coming apart after 2 years. I replaced them with a complete set of Denman Express radials, the recommended hot ticket on the web at the time, and they also took a lot of weight to balance. Those didn't last 2 years before they started throwing their treads.
I've currently got a mix of brands, replaced as the Denmans failed. I've noticed that the new Maxxis tires required relatively little weight to balance them. I'm thinking about preemptively replacing the other tires to go with just Maxxis.
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