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Old 05-09-2011, 11:50 AM
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Default '02 F250 with 315's tires rub..Solution?

So I posted a while ago about getting a new F350, Decided to save the cash for the development project and found a mint '02 F250 7.3L with 150K that was well taken care of. DP chip/AFE air box/Larger exhaust/ a few minor dings and the inside looks almost new.

Here is the issue, It has 315 Fierce Attitudes that are brand new on it so when you go wheel to wheel for turning they hit the leaf springs. I'm searching craigslist for stock tires and rims that I can use but the truck looks BAD ASS with these things on it. Any issues with adding a wheel spacer to the 315's 1.5"-2" max. I have read it's no the best solution. Do I also have to add them to the rear as well?
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Can you share the purchase price and pictures?
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I will take some tonight and post. Ended up grabbing it for $11.8K Not a steal but I think I did pretty good.
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I have run wheel spacers before, and although they are not the optimum setup, I have never had any issues. The best wheel spacers I have found, especially when dealing with a spacer as wide as you are speaking about, is to find a machined spacer that bolts to your stock hubs and then relocates your lugs by slightly rotating their position (if that makes sense). Generally you would put the spacers on all 4 tires. More than likely it is not the tire that is really giving you issues, but rather the wheel / rim is not the correct offset, for your truck's setup and those tires.
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What you need to find are technically called "wheel adaptors". Ideally they should be hub-centric so that the lugs do not bear the entire burden of the weight. You do not have to install them on the back of the truck if you don't want to.
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What you need to find are technically called "wheel adaptors". Ideally they should be hub-centric so that the lugs do not bear the entire burden of the weight. You do not have to install them on the back of the truck if you don't want to.
Actually, adapters adapt the bolt circle and/or number of lugs to fit rims that would not otherwiset match the vehicle.

Spacers merely space the rims out further from the hub without any changes in bolt circle or number of lugs.

Spacers can create new problem spots as the tire might then touch the inner fender or the wheel opening as the radius from the ball joint has increased the tire/rim arc.
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I will take some tonight and post. Ended up grabbing it for $11.8K Not a steal but I think I did pretty good.
I think you did get a steal! Average prices I am seeing for that same set up is around 16K....
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Leveling kit. No wheel spacers!
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What you need to find are technically called "wheel adaptors". Ideally they should be hub-centric so that the lugs do not bear the entire burden of the weight. You do not have to install them on the back of the truck if you don't want to.
You are correct, this is what I trying to describe in my post above, but the name eluded me. You are almost guaranteed not to have any problems since the adapters bolt to the hubs, and then the rims then bolt to the adapters.

I for one think that a truck looks funny when the front tires and rear tires are at separate widths, hence the reason I said you should consider doing all 4 tires.



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Leveling kit. No wheel spacers!
If the tires are hitting the springs and not body, fenders, etc a leveling kit will not change anything.
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Thanks guys. Demjjm do you have a supplier for a decent wheel adapter kit manufacturer? I see tons of no name brands on ebay but its too important a piece to trust for a no name brand.

Will post pics tomorrow forgot to take them last nite.
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Thanks guys. Demjjm do you have a supplier for a decent wheel adapter kit manufacturer? I see tons of no name brands on ebay but its too important a piece to trust for a no name brand.
Sorry, but I do not have a supplier anymore. After years of making wheels and tires fit through spacers and adapters, I now go above and beyond to insure I set up everything up from the beginning with proper wheel offsets for the exact look I am trying to achieve.

Ideally you are looking for a hub centric adapter, made of solid machined billet aluminum. Years ago I used a guy off of ebay, and he was the best I ever dealt with. I would just give him the vehicle info, and what I was looking for and within a couple of weeks, he would have them ready for me.
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Thats a sweet looking truck, you got a hell of a deal! Check out Ebay and Craigslist prices on 2001-2002 7.3's with the same options, way over 11.8K! I am looking at another one right now with 206K miles, all the goodies on it, and the guy is firm on 14K.
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How bad does it rub and how much time do you spend with wheels at full lock? I have 315 BFG's on the same rims and while it does just touch the leaf spring at full lock, it has not caused any problems in 250K miles and 4 sets of the same tire. Even when rock crawling, I've not had any issues. Makes a little noise going into and out of parking spaces, oh well.

BTW, left does not solve the problem. The diameter of the tire is the same and relationship to the spring is the same.

+1 one on spacer causing a new set of unintended problems.
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put a 2" leveling kit on it and it wont be an issue anymore
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How bad does it rub and how much time do you spend with wheels at full lock? I have 315 BFG's on the same rims and while it does just touch the leaf spring at full lock, it has not caused any problems in 250K miles and 4 sets of the same tire. Even when rock crawling, I've not had any issues. Makes a little noise going into and out of parking spaces, oh well.

BTW, left does not solve the problem. The diameter of the tire is the same and relationship to the spring is the same.

+1 one on spacer causing a new set of unintended problems.
I bought it for a development project in the city. The streets around where I will be working are very narrow and turning down some streets requires me to turn/stop/backup/ and continue with the turn. PITA. I think I'm going to just find a pair of normal tires and rims on craigslist and swap them out.

SCGolfer ...Your the second person to mention leveling kit. Just not sure how as demjjim has stated adding a spacer below the leaf springs will give me extra clearance? It might be a little but I can't believe it would be enough to clear the springs??
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Lifting and leveling a truck will solve alot of rubbing issues if you are rubbing on the body, the fenders, fender wells etc .... however it you are rubbing a leaf spring as bjm9818 is stating, no amount of lift will resolve the issue. Either a different rim with an offset that places the rear of tire further out, or a spacer / adapter kit, or smaller tires are the only real solutions to the problem at hand.


These would seem to solve your problem, if you need a whole 2 inches.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/99-02...Q5fAccessories

These would solve you problem if you only need 1.5 inches

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Ford-...Q5fAccessories

I sold my brand new wheels and tires (less than 1500 miles) on craigslist the day after I put new wheels and tires on my truck. So bjm9818 the craigslist idea for a set of stock wheels and tires is a decent idea as well. If you wanted to get real creative put your wheels and tires up for trade for stock, and have the other party throw some cash in.
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I'm keeping the big ass tires. Tires are brand new and really make the truck look "aggressive". Im seeing 3-500 on a set of serviceable tires and rims. Will swap the 315's back out when I'm done to tow the boat.
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Off-setting the front wheels is not a good idea. First, it puts more load on the OUTER wheel bearing. Second, it screws up the front end geometry. On a stock suspension, a line drawn through the king pin/ball joints contacts the road at the exact center of the tire patch. Off-setting the wheel moves the center of the tire out from this pivot point. Third, on independent front suspension (if this vehicle has it), moving the wheel out causes the front end to drop, as it compresses the spring more.
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