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Old 07-10-2010, 04:48 PM
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Default What is the best new 2500 Diesel PickUp?

I realize alot of this has been hashed out before but I would like to hear the pros and cons of a new 2500+ diesel pickup model in real time. I currently own a 2004 Dodge (hemi) Ram 2500 and am considering upgrading. Thanks in advance.
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I have a five year old Dodge Cummins but given the situation of GM and Chrysler, I would go for a Ford.
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you don't like your hemi ?
I have a 2000 ford 7.3L turbo diesel. Have no problems towing.
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I still like GM for best interior, engine and tranny combo, and no UREA.
Only Ford's new diesels require urea additives (exhaust fluids to help emissions).
I'd avoid that like i need the plague, so that leaves GM or Dodge.
the GM duramax seem to still give superior fuel economy compared to the new Ford or Dodge's 6.7L i-6 Cummins.

But, the whole diesel light truck scene is not too appealing for me, perhaps those pulling heavy and frequently and lots of miles it makes sense, but too much BS with only more in the near future makes me cringe thinking about diesels.
BS emissions, BS fuel costs, BS low sulfur fuel, BS DPF (diesel particulate filter), etc.
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Drive a new Ford diesel. The urea is not that big a deal and you will be getting the monster, fuel efficient towing machine you always wanted. Very quiet as well.
I am (proudly) a Ford guy.
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It seems that the GMC is still more refined than Dodge or Ford.Dodge has the best engine for durability.GMC is the smoothest,Ford has the most complicated system.We have had some problems with the new Ford.
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I still like GM for best interior, engine and tranny combo, and no UREA.
Only Ford's new diesels require urea additives (exhaust fluids to help emissions).
You may want to re-check this info as the 2011 GM DEFINATELY uses UREA/ DEF to meet emissions. The only 2011 2500/3500 that doesn't is the DODGE with the CUMMINS, although there cab and chassis models for commercial use do use it. Wether we like it or not, UREA/DEF is coming and will most likely be here to stay if you want a NEW diesel truck. I swapped in an 01 DMAX into my old BURB mainly because it has no emissions equipmet on it, so even if they start emissions testing here in my area I'm legal.
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the new fords. amazing machines
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The new 6.7L Fords. Great mpg, power and interior (per friends that have picked them up recently). Not to mention they are the best looking trucks out right. They are easily modded (for performance and an assumption since the 6.4s were) and have heard all the 6.0, then 6.4 problems have been fixed. This is probably Fords last shot at the diesel market, so they better have nailed it.
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I just sold my 04 ram 2500 diesel, bought a 09 ford 250 diesel and will never look back. The fuel mileage is not as good but the fit and ride is great.
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Thanks for the input guys. As I figured there is not an "answer" but appreciate your thoughts. I have owned 4 Dodge trucks in a row; and have not owned a diesel. I have a couple buddies that like theirs (of course one is a dodge, one is a ford and one is a gmc) None of these guys do a lot of towing. And to a previous question, I do like my hemi but the tow power is a little lacking in the mountains and I do not like the fuel economy (8 mpg) whether I am towing approx 5K # boat or my 8K enclosed cargo trailer for work. I am not familiar with the new emmisions requirements in or on the way with diesels and will take that into consideration.... although I am leaning toward diesel for the towing power and resulting mileage. All of this assuming I can get a "decent" deal.
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Ram/Cummins hands down! I am a service manager in a Chevy dealer and drive a Ram!
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2500HD silverado or sierra
duramax with the allison.
put a trailer behind it and go.
super quiet, most comfortable seats, plenty of power and bullet proof tranny.
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Drive a new Ford diesel. The urea is not that big a deal and you will be getting the monster, fuel efficient towing machine you always wanted. Very quiet as well.
I am (proudly) a Ford guy.
Good luck.
+1 just ordered another one.. and thanks for your help... and I was a GM Duramax fan..Jeff
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I bought a Duramax leftover (08) a year ago and 49000 miles later....I have been more than impressed.

If the Ford is any better (and it may very well be) I don't want to know.
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FORD DIESEL 2008+ models. 2011 has awesome mileage! Go to ford website and watch all the videos about the work and research that has gone into them. ANY diesel fan would be impressed with the inhouse FORD built 6.7!
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So far I have met ONE guy that has a new '11 ford Diesel and it has been to Chicago and back to Texas and the best he has seen is 17 MPG empty and 8 to 9 towing.
Stock truck all factory . I told him my 5.9 cummins gets 23+ on the HWY empty ....He gave me the LOOK. LOL

Maybe he got a sucky one .
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I don't care who it is or what it is but I don't what to be a first year test pig any of the auto companies. Even the cummins has had first year problems with the 6.7L inregards to the DPF. Duramax had problems with injectors in the early ones. The 6.0 was well disaster overall for ford and the 6.4 had issues. The only truck of the 3 is the dodge right now. GMC still has the Allison which is well the king but a revamped emissions system. Ford built some good ideas into this new setup and on paper it looks great but only time/mileage will tell. I will be waiting to give these engines a year or so to work out the bugs. thats my suggestion.
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I drive a 2011 F-250 Lariat 4x4.

Around town I see 17-18mpg now that I've slowed it down a bit. When I first got it I was seeing more like 14-16mpg just because I couldn't get over how much power and pickup it has. I've only been on the highway once so far and that was in rain, traffic, and a pretty strong headwind. I still managed 18mpg so it's not too bad, but not what everyone was expecting either. I think with cruise control and less stop and go traffic I could probably do a little better.

I haven't towed anything besides my little flats boat yet, it weighs about 1500lbs total so I literally didn't even feel it. I know a lot of people like to claim that they can't feel what they're towing but I truly didn't feel it at all so I can't wait to pull something heavier.

I've also had a whole pallet of mulch (about 2000lbs.) in the bed and I did feel it, but the truck did fine. I won't say that my suspension didn't sag at all and that I didn't feel it, but it really wasn't bad. That about maxed out my payload capacity and I was really impressed. I do a lot more hauling than towing so I'm happy with it. The guy at Home Depot who loaded the pallet in even commented about how impressed he was and how he now understands the hype about the trucks because most trucks he sees bottom out the suspension completely when they haul that much.

I also really like the interior. The underseat storage bins are great and the seats are also super comfortable even on long drives. The SYNC system is also awesome and is far and away superior to any of the GM navigation systems I've ever owned.

I'm normally very wary of being the guinea pig for a brand new product but I just had to have this truck and so far I have zero regrets. Only time will tell and I'll be sure to report back but so far I'm very happy and definitely think I made the right choice.
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Yep, so far the new FORDS have not even come close to there claims of 25 MPG, and espescially not the 30 MPG they said they got from that magazine. Also the milage that the trip computer gives has been noted as being VERY optimistic. Most reports so far have it at 17-19 so far for highway when hand calculated(the read out will say closer to 21 or so though), and around town has been around 14-16. This is a step in the right direction at least, and it does live up to FORD's claim of the 11% improvement over the last model year FORD. SO basically we now have the milage of the pre DPF diesels that had cat converters on them with the new emissions stuff on there doing it's thing. The companies out there testing out tuning for the 6.7L have reported 23MPG hand calculated with some of the tuning they are developing, but I believe this is with the emissions equipment removed. I personally will stick with my 01 LB7 and deal with the injectors, at least BOSCH finally redesigned them August of 08 so they are hopefully better.
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