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Old 06-20-2010, 09:41 AM
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Looking to upgrade to a 3/4 ton soon. What year and what gas engine between Ford, Dodge, and Chevy would be the best to tow a 27 Contender? I have looked at this http://www.trailerboats.com/sharedco...mit=&x=67&y=25
and see a wide variance in tow ratings from year to year- ex 2004 Ford F250 with 5.4 is rated at ~ 8800lbs and 2005 5.4 is rated at ~ 11000lbs. Same goes for the Dodge Hemi and the Chevy 6.0.
I would prefer diesel, but the truck is only going to be used to tow the boat 90 miles roundtrip every weekend/every other weekend and maybe 20 miles during the week so I am looking at getting the most capable crew cab for the least amount of money(around $10-15000).
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I have a 2005 Chevy 2500hd crew w/6.0 gas 4.11 rear end. I bought it for $8000 w/99K miles on it to tow my 31 contender from Florida to Cabo San Lucas, Mx. It made the trip great and use it to move my boat from storage to the slip about once a month. I averaged 9mpg on the trip. Not the best at climbing hills towing the 31 but if you are not in a rush it has been great. I have 2 sets of disk breaks on the trailer and the truck stops the boat great. I did tow a freinds 31 the other day and his breaks were not working and I could feel the boat push the truck.

P.S. I towed my 31 with a 1999 F350 7.4 diesel and there was some difference in acceleration but that was all.
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2005+ ford v10. (2005 they upgraded the specs on the v10/redesigned it.) I have it and LOVE it. tow a 30' grady with it in a f250, 2wd. o problems atall and can still accelerate uphills.
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I guess the 6.0 Chevy works fine if you pulled a 31 all that way. I have a good line on a 2005 3500 with the 6.0 but saw where it is only rated to pull 9400#. I'm sure the truck will handle it better than my Titan did with the same tow rating, but would be concerned over any liability if I were ever in an accident.
It seems that some of these trucks are over rated and some are under rated???
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check the tow rating again on the 3500. Mine is rated at 10.6K on the hitch and 14.5K in the bed. Rear end ratio will be all the difference. the link in your post has most of the 1500's with high rear end ratio's. Look for a 4.10 ratio it will have the highest rating. The 3.73 ratio will be the next higher but stay with the 4.10 or may be 4.11 for Ford.

Look to make sure there is a trany cooler. most of the 3/4 and 1 ton's should have them but make sure. A transmission Gage will be nice. I found a break dragging on my trip because I noticed my transmission temp was up a little and stopped to see why. My trailer breaks were dragging enough to heat up the trany but not enough to notice it driving.

Here is what I have found for tow ratings for 2005 HD models - Towing capacity for the 1500HD is rated at 10,300 pounds (4,700 kg), and can haul 3,129 pounds (1,419 kg) in the bed. The 2500HD ups these ratings to 16,100 pounds (7,300 kg) with the 8.1 liter engine or 10,600 pounds (4,800 kg) with the 6.0 liter engine, and 4,058 pounds (1,841 kg), while the 3500 can tow 16,700 pounds (7,600 kg) and haul 5,511 pounds (2,500 kg). The addition of 4 wheel drive tends to reduce the towing and carrying capacity by 200 to 400 lb (181 kg), depending upon year.
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I have a 2006 2500hd with the 8.1 lt. The thing is a beast. The only drawback is, the mileage sucks. Im lucky if I can get 10 mpg not towing. Towing a 26 ft W/A I get around 8mpg.
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I have around 105k miles on my 2007 Chevy 2500 HD with 6.0L gas, 6 speed, and 4.10 gears. I estimate that about 30k of those miles are pulling a load of 10,000 lbs. or more. The truck has been flawless. Yes, the 06' duramax has better acceleration loaded and burns about 30% less fuel, but the gas truck gets the job done without issues. (I highly recommend the 4.10 gears if you upgrade the factory tires)

The 2007 6.0 gas has 33" tires and averages about 14 mpg unloaded. 7.5 mpg towing 10,000 lbs and 6.5 mpg towing 13,000 lbs., and 5.5 mpg towing 18-20,000 lbs.

The 2006 duramax has 33" tires and averages 18 mpg unloaded. 10.5 mpg towing 10,000 lbs, 8.5 mpg towing 13,000 lbs, and 7.5-8.0 towing 18-20,000 lbs.
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Anyone have any experience towing with a Dodge 2500 with the Hemi? I found a 2003 with low mileage in my price range. Looks like with a 4.10 rear end it is rated to pull around 10900lbs.
Again, not looking for a world breaking towing machine I just want something capable and LEGAL.
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I have a 2005 and a 2003 chevy 2500 crew cab 4wd with 6.0 litre , 4:10 rear and automatic. I tow equipment (compact tractor and bobcats) 3-4 times a week with 0 problems. I tow my 25' prolline walkaround over the blue ridge mt. from the shenandoah valley to the Chesapeake with 0 problems either. Going over the Shenandoah mt. I can run 65 no problem. I have 185,000 on the 2003 as of today and the only thing I've done is replace ball joints and tie rod ends other than tires and brakes. The 6.0 reminds me of the old 300 straight 6 that Ford had. They are bullet proof. My buddy has the 8.1 and pulls a 20,000 lb. forklift with it fairly often. He says it pulls better than his cummins.

I also have a 7.3 powerstroke in a service truck but have never pulled with it so I can't compare.

If I were to buy today, I would buy another chevy with the 6.0.
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I owned two F-250 Supercab V-10's in a row until 2005. Got 12 mpg combined city and highway on both of them without towing anything.

I occasionally tow a 25 foot Parker, about 9,000 lb total load. V-10 pulled it fine.

I got an F-350 Supercab diesel in 2005 when all the manufacturers were doing their family or membership plans. It gets 16 mpg combined driving. It pulls fine too, maybe less winding up when getting on the highway.

I liked the V-10, got similar mileage to guys with a V-8 and a different gear ratio to get get towing capacity.

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I have an 04 Dodge 2500 w/5.7 hemi. I don't know what my gear ratio is. I pull a Key West 225 (around 5,000#) and get 8.3 mpg towing. I am leaning toward a diesel the next time.
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I'm hearing great things about Ford's new 6.2L V8. Have a friend who just got one - he pulls a 10,000 lb flat bed construction trailer and told me this new 6.2 is impressive over his previous 5.4L V8.
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I've got an '03 2500 Hemi Dodge Ram 4x4 with a 3.73 rear end and use it to tow a 25' SeaCat, with weight right at the truck's tow limit of 8800 or so. It works fine for my very limited towing - around 1,000 miles per year, and around 10K miles total use each year. Mileage while towing is awful: 7.5 - 8 mpg. Can get 13.5mpg on hiway not towing. Can get 12 mpg around town if I'm real careful. I'd prefer a diesel but could not justify the extra expense considering my limited use.

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I just recently upgraded to an 2008 Super Duty with the 6.4 Diesel.I previousley had a 2004 F150 with the 5.4 . I have cursed Diesel engines all my life and vowed to never own one, but, with that said I had never driven one either. If I had known the difference was that much I would have had one years ago, I can pull my 23' CC like its not even there, Literally I have to remind myself that Im pulling it because I cant even feel it. Look at the Torque numbers when looking for a tow vehicle, thats where the cookie crumbles . The Diesel has almost twice the torque of the v-8,when my super duty shifts into high gear it never looks back , I have yet to have it downshift while towing up any hills, it just rattles and keeps on going.The Super Duty is rated for 23,500 lbs,so I think you would have no problems pulling anything you wanted. Like I said I know you are interested in a gas truck, and so was I until I made the mistake of driving the Diesel, If you are serious about getting a gas engine DO NOT TEST DRIVE A SUPER DUTY WITH A DIESEL ENGINE, or you will be in debt just like me.Good luck and I hope you find what you are looking for.
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I would probably prefer a diesel, but for what little I will use it and the fact that we just bought the wife a new SUV, my budget will most likely limit me to a gas engine.

Sounds like the V10 Ford and the 6.0 Chevy are the way to go. Disappointed to hear less than stellar owner reviews about the Dodge 2500. Still not ruling out the Dodge but they are getting slid to the back of the list.

My typical tow is 45 miles one way all interstate through downtown Tampa and St Pete with a lot of stop and go or braking b/c of idiots...Depending on the oil situation, I would like to tow the boat back home to Mississippi/Louisiana 1-2x/year for vacation so I guess I need to look at something with more ass than the Hemi.
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just hauled a 10000 pound excavator behind my 2009 3-4 ton GMC crew cab and it tow it like no ones business. smooth trans shifts and plenty of power, brakes were great with the factory installed trailer system. the tranny went to 175 degrees and stayed there thru the mountains!
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gordo, I see you are in FLA and with my "hemi" I have alot of hills/mountains. My 2500 tows fine on the flats but fuel ecomony lacks. I would go to a diesel the next time because my tows are 200 miles each way generally. If you have limited usage and dont mind the 8 mpg, I believe the truck will perform adequately. Certainly not trying to steer you away from a more capable tow.
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If you have lots of braking incidents while towing because of local idiots it's a strong case for a 3/4 ton whether it be gas or diesel. The 3/4 ton has better/stronger brakes plus the heavier weight of your tow vehicle will help you more in controlling your boat during an emergency.

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I would probably prefer a diesel, but for what little I will use it and the fact that we just bought the wife a new SUV, my budget will most likely limit me to a gas engine.

Sounds like the V10 Ford and the 6.0 Chevy are the way to go. Disappointed to hear less than stellar owner reviews about the Dodge 2500. Still not ruling out the Dodge but they are getting slid to the back of the list.

My typical tow is 45 miles one way all interstate through downtown Tampa and St Pete with a lot of stop and go or braking b/c of idiots...Depending on the oil situation, I would like to tow the boat back home to Mississippi/Louisiana 1-2x/year for vacation so I guess I need to look at something with more ass than the Hemi.
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V10 ford. Mine was great. It would pull anything you put behind it, and i had the 2000 model with 310hp. Not as fast as a diesel, but always got the job done and didn't feel underpowered. I had a sierra denali with the 6.0 and it was fine untill you tried to pull with it. Was an absolute dog when towing. The ford 5.4 is better towing.
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