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Old 02-19-2010, 06:52 PM
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I currently drive a car but eventually will be in the market for a new vehicle and we (soon to be wife and I) are interested in SUV/Truck. As I begin to look around on the web at vehicles (20-25k new/used), I see a lot of smaller SUVs with a 3500lb tow capacity. Would a 3500 tow capacity with 4WD work for the majority of 17-18' boats loaded? I've never owned a boat nor have I towed. Personally I think it would be better for a 5k or above tow capacity. Issue...I like the Tacoma V6 (6500lbs), she loves the Rav4 (again V6 but 3500lbs). From what I have read, I think 3500 would work as long as I don't exceed an 18 average bay boat or CC. Potential brands would be Pro-Lite, Scout, Cobia, Sea Hunt etc.

Edit- Now that I look more into the weight of some 18' boats, 3500 may be cutting it very close once fuel, trailer, and other accessories are added.

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You can check the boat weights you are interested in on their websites if the model--or something close--is still in production. But 18 foot boats, loaded up, will come to over 3000lbs, maybe 3500. (some will e a little less) Trailer something over 1000lbs.

And you need to know that max trailer weights are stated for the tow vehicle and just a driver. More people and gear in the truck reduces tow rating on a one for one basis.

A 6000lb rating would be best, you can probably get by with 5000 unless you do a lot of towing in hilly terrain--long hills measured in miles.
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But 18 foot boats, loaded up, will come to over 3000lbs, maybe 3500. (some will e a little less) Trailer something over 1000lbs.
Completely depends on the boat. My dad's 20' CC full of fuel, motor, dual batteries, all gear, and on the trailer is under 3100lbs. He tows it with a 4 cylinder Highlander.

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That's true for full size trucks. It varies a lot for other vehicles. According to Toyota you are in the Rav4 specs as long as the trailer is less than 3500lbs and the tongue weight doesn't push you over GVWR. Other than that you can put whatever you want in the vehicle. The details are in the owners manual. Read it before buying.
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I currently drive a car but eventually will be in the market for a new vehicle and we (soon to be wife and I) are interested in SUV/Truck. As I begin to look around on the web at vehicles (20-25k new/used), I see a lot of smaller SUVs with a 3500lb tow capacity. Would a 3500 tow capacity with 4WD work for the majority of 17-18' boats loaded? I've never owned a boat nor have I towed. Personally I think it would be better for a 5k or above tow capacity. Issue...I like the Tacoma V6 (6500lbs), she loves the Rav4 (again V6 but 3500lbs). From what I have read, I think 3500 would work as long as I don't exceed an 18 average bay boat or CC. Potential brands would be Pro-Lite, Scout, Cobia, Sea Hunt etc.

Edit- Now that I look more into the weight of some 18' boats, 3500 may be cutting it very close once fuel, trailer, and other accessories are added.

Thanks for your opinions.
Of course more would be better but an 18 Century (about the same as a Cobia) is 1850. plus about 500 for engine and another 800 for trailer so you would be fine with the Rav; that is until you want the larger boat like you probably will in a few years when a 23/25 Contender grabs you.
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My 18' Whaler... boat, motor and trailer (galvenized) weighs in at 3300 pounds on the scale.......I am presently condiersing my 3rd new tow vehicle because I keep getting bigger boats and am unhappy being close to the max....my advice...get more than you need now.
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I suggest you look at a Toyota 4 Runner. With the V6, it's rated to tow 5000 lbs and the V8 will handle 7200 lbs.
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How far are you towing? your in FL (I think) which is flat. your interests put you into a package that is right around the capacity you want. don't make the mistake of buying the smaller vehicle and then decide you really want a 21 footer. i almost bought a used truck with a 7,000 tow capacity capable of towing up to around a 23 footer. I bought a 26 foot 9,000# package a month later. Fortunately I bought a truck capable of towing the heavier load.

If you already have a boat decision go with the vehicle you like the most whether it be a 3500 or higher capacity. if a few years down the road you want bigger, sell the vehicle or trade it for something that can toe the new package.

Now if your towing significant disctances, go with something a little beefier and, more importantly, more wheelbase.
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You can tow 3500 pounds with pretty much any V6 powered compact truck, SUV or minivan. Don't worry about it.
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[quote=KarlP;2797632]Completely depends on the boat. My dad's 20' CC full of fuel, motor, dual batteries, all gear, and on the trailer is under 3100lbs. He tows it with a 4 cylinder Highlander.

Somehow I think that "under5 3100 lbs" is probably over 3000lbs
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I suggest you look at a Toyota 4 Runner. With the V6, it's rated to tow 5000 lbs and the V8 will handle 7200 lbs.
Too bad it would have to be used. They don't put the V8 in the 2010 4Runner.
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Thanks guys, I would prefer to buy a vehicle with a higher tow capacity to not restrict me in buying a boat. Like some have mentioned, you don't want to buy a smaller SUV and determine you want a bigger boat,

Bama & Joe- I really like the 4runner and may look for a used low mileage one. The 2010 has no V8 (as Joe mentioned) instead a 4 Cylinder and a V6 (5k tow capacity). A V8 4runner would be great.
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A V8 4runner would be great.
Except for the gas mileage. The V6 4Runners are great. My wife is on her second one.
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Personally I think you should stay with compact size with -3500lb cap, if thats the car you & the wife would like when the boat isn't on it.. They will do many of the 18's, but I think at the upper limit on say a Grady or Parker. You need the vehicle first and intend to drive it every day.......... I towed a 17 carolina Skiff with my Wrangler NJ to Marathon and OBX a number of times. It was maxed at the 2000lb cap, no problem.
I understand the problem, Love my Tahoe, but I really would like one of the hot little cross-over SUVs like the BMW or Caddy next, but gotta be able to pull my boat a couple times a year..

I know you see every concievable trailer rig for a boat there is. Go sit at Sandsprit on nice Saturday, the exact model you're interested in (no matter what it is) will roll in at some point! Go talk to the guy, everyone loves to teach.
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Somehow I think that "under5 3100 lbs" is probably over 3000lbs
Your right. Of course 20' is bigger and heavier than 18' and "under 3100lbs" includes the trailer that you claim is an extra 1000lbs beyond that. I don't see the "need" for a 5000lb towing capacity for an 18' boat.

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We are/were in a similar situation. Don't have a lot of real towing experience here so do with the info what you will...

I had an 05 Pathfinder that pulled our old boat @ +/- 4k lbs fine, I loved it. The boat/trailer/motor etc we are in the process of purchasing will be close to 3k lbs loaded-up so we decided to trade the Pathfinder and another car for one smaller suv and carpool to work with it. We went with an 09 Hyundai Santa Fe - 3500 tow capacity.

How do I like it? I wish I had the Pathy back. While I haven't towed anything with the Santa Fe yet, daily driving tells me it's gonna be a chore. Will it get it done? Sure but a Pathfinder or 4Runner is a MUCH better choice and has room if I go to a bigger boat. Oh, the mpg difference isn't much to talk about...maybe 1 mpg overall better with the Santa Fe.

I am currently looking to trade the Santa Fe in for a V6 4Runner (preferred), Pathfinder, Frontier or Tacoma truck.
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I don't think there is an 18 out there that can't be towed (easily) by a 6 cylinder 4runner. On the trailer, loaded. I had a 5 speed 4runner that towed every bit of 5k lbs. No problem.
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Personaly if I could afford it, I'd want the larger vehicle. There are lots of "mid-sized" SUV's and trucks with 5k lbs+ towing capacity, Tacoma, 4-runner, Frontier, Pathfinder, I believe the extera, honda ridgeline, Pilot.

I had a friend who towed a 17ft bow rider with a Hyundia Sante Fe with no issues, so I'm sure most suv's would not have to much trouble with a 17 ft boat.
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Remember towing your boat is one thing you also have to stop it. I saw a small SUV at our ramp one day back his boat down the ramp and when he hit the brakes the boat pulled his rig right in the water. Get you an F150 or a Dodge 1500. Forget the Datsun
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I love my Tacoma 4dr PreRunner. The V6 has plenty of pep, but gets 21mpg hwy consistently. I haven't checked the mileage pulling a trailer. I pull a 2500# trailer once a week, and it's no problem. It is rated for 5500# (it is a 2007); I think the newer ones can handle 6500#. I don't have 4wd, but I wish I did...just because I'd feel better on a wet boat ramp. 4 people can ride comfortably, but I like it with me and two dogs the best.
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