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Old 10-18-2009, 09:51 AM
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Maybe I should look into a slightly older F250 (or comparable GMC/Chevy) as well. Can get a 04-05 with a diesel for about the same price. The ps 6.0's arent that bad on fuel my dads excursion gets 19-20 on the highway. Hes had two without a single problem.
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I know someone who had a Tacoma, mileage is not any better than Ford or chevy 1/2 ton and the tranny went out at 100K. IT never towed anything, all empty driving.
I've towed and offroaded both my FJ and my tacoma. Tacoma has over 100k on it now and my sister has it. Never had anything fail on it, ever

FJ only has 20k on it so it better be failure free at this point
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I went and picked up the new boat with mine Friday and was very happy with how it handles the boat. I was a little nervous because before we took it home we went on a sea trial and they used the dealers 2009 F-250. When the manager went to pull it out of the water the tires spun and he had to put it in 4WD. My Tacoma is a 2WD but is a TRD Sport model so it has the limited slip diff. I put in at one of the worst ramps we have Saturday and the truck pulled it out of the water great!

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I went and picked up the new boat with mine Friday and was very happy with how it handles the boat. I was a little nervous because before we took it home we went on a sea trial and they used the dealers 2009 F-250. When the manager went to pull it out of the water the tires spun and he had to put it in 4WD. My Tacoma is a 2WD but is a TRD Sport model so it has the limited slip diff. I put in at one of the worst ramps we have Saturday and the truck pulled it out of the water great!

I could be wrong, but I think all vehicles have lsd's on their main axle...

The new tacoma's, fjs, and 4runners have a pretty capable 4wd traction control system though. I was flexing over some really gnarly stuff and got the front left and rear right wheels off the ground... like I parked it and got out and walked around, teeter-tootering the car from wheel to wheel... the system just braked those wheels to transfer the power to the two wheels still in contact with the ground. Pretty awesome. That would have halted my older Tacoma unless I had a rear locker (didn't)
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Toyotas aren't all LSD. They have started using LSD diffs much more in the newer vehicles.
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Toyotas aren't all LSD. They have started using LSD diffs much more in the newer vehicles.
So most vehicles are "true" open differentials? Which is to say, I could jack one rear wheel off the ground and the vehicle will be completely incapacitated?
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The BBC runs a car test show call Top Gear. It is one of my favorite shows on TV. They did a show about how tough the Toyota pickup trucks really are. The waterproof truck could come in handy if my brakes ever fail on a ramp . . . and I'm not even going to get into the fire thing. I have attached a link to the first of three parts - watch all of them. Great stuff.

http://www.topgear.com/uk/videos/killing-a-toyota
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So most vehicles are "true" open differentials? Which is to say, I could jack one rear wheel off the ground and the vehicle will be completely incapacitated?
Thats completely true, and happens all the time in the north to guys in 2wd trucks when it ices up, doesn't matter who the manufacturer is. You see it all the time with a truck spinning just one wheel.

Atleast now almost all of the manufactures are offering a lsd as an option for a couple of hundred bucks.
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Thats completely true, and happens all the time in the north to guys in 2wd trucks when it ices up, doesn't matter who the manufacturer is. You see it all the time with a truck spinning just one wheel.

Atleast now almost all of the manufactures are offering a lsd as an option for a couple of hundred bucks.
probably never noticed because we don't have ice down here lol
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Thats completely true, and happens all the time in the north to guys in 2wd trucks when it ices up, doesn't matter who the manufacturer is. You see it all the time with a truck spinning just one wheel.

Atleast now almost all of the manufactures are offering a lsd as an option for a couple of hundred bucks.
If you are stuck w/o a LSD, one trick you can do is apply a little pressure to the emergency brake. This will often trick the open diff into transferring power to the other wheel. Not a substitute for an LSD, but might get you out of a jam...

Best thing for 2wd trucks up north is to had a half-ton of sandbags to the bed. The weight gives you a lot more traction and you can pop open a bag or two if u need more traction. If I lived in true snow country, I'd be running real snow tires during the winter - the right tires will make a tremendous difference.
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I could be wrong, but I think all vehicles have lsd's on their main axle...
You are incorrect. I do a LOT of four-wheeling and have built many Toyota 4x4s. Most are full open diffs.

4wd Tacomas (as well as 2 wd Tacos w/ the Pre-Runner pkg.) use a Toyota 8 inch housing and come either open or TRD models have the e-locker. The e-locker is an full locker, much like an ARB in principle but becomes a spool thru an electrically actuated fork. It is an outstanding system and widely used in rretrofitting older solid axle toyotas. If you don't have the TRD it is easily retrofitted, as are many other full lockers.

Standard 2wd Tacos use the 7.5 inch housing and the diff options for that axle are very limited and expensive.

FYI-The Toy 8 inch housing is widely supported by the 4xd aftermarket an despite its small size and formed housing can be affordably built to exceed the strength of a 1 ton Dana 60. It is an incredible little unit.
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You are incorrect. I do a LOT of four-wheeling and have built many Toyota 4x4s. Most are full open diffs.

4wd Tacomas (as well as 2 wd Tacos w/ the Pre-Runner pkg.) use a Toyota 8 inch housing and come either open or TRD models have the e-locker. The e-locker is an full locker, much like an ARB in principle but becomes a spool thru an electrically actuated fork. It is an outstanding system and widely used in rretrofitting older solid axle toyotas. If you don't have the TRD it is easily retrofitted, as are many other full lockers.

Standard 2wd Tacos use the 7.5 inch housing and the diff options for that axle are very limited and expensive.

FYI-The Toy 8 inch housing is widely supported by the 4xd aftermarket an despite its small size and formed housing can be affordably built to exceed the strength of a 1 ton Dana 60. It is an incredible little unit.
lol, i my defense, I opened that statement admitting I wasn't sure of my answer

I thought the e-locker tacomas had a 7.5 inch rear.. and the non-lockers used a tundra axle. Thats what bud at budbuilt told me anyway.

so what is in my fj? i have a locker anyway, and with the a-trac stuff i've not had to touch the locker yet
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gas mileage is all dependent on the driver really. I recently decided to upgrade from my 200K+ miles sonoma which was a 4cyl 5 spd to get something bigger and more reliable. I went through the debate of what to get, im a gm guy and found myself looking to toyota ford and dodge, toyota for me was much pricier than the others and fuel mileage was crap......yeah i said it and most tundra owners would agree. Then i went to dodge, and its just felt cheesy, then the reliability issues caused me to look away from them, plus bad gas mileage. Next was ford......the dash is the most hideous thing i have seen, the gauges to me are just plain and ugly. the gas mileage is average with other big trucks but i hated big square trucks. So i went back to chevy and found an 06 silverado with fairly low miles with the big engine in it. I loved it for towing and reliability, but i felt the gas mileage would be crappy because of the bigger engine, and it was rated about the same as ford.......so i conceeded on the fuel mileage issue. Well i started driving it, and.....22mpg on the highway, and 19 in the city?????WHAT I dont speed around, but i drive with traffic. Point of the story, just go drive them, buy the one you feel the best about, and everything else will be a pleasant suprise....

unless you buy a ford when you will realize you have a pleasant piece of crap

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Lets see here...Ford or Toyota...Hummm Ford or Toyota...Something that will last..humm..pretty easy choice IMHO! Toyota.
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For what it's worth I just sold 2 97 fords, my F150 5.4 4X4 with 192K on it and the wifes Expy 5.4 4X4 with 152k. Both were good to us, it's all a matter of opinion...picked up a 06 F150 Lariat Screw with 14K on it and couldn't be happier...to each his own.
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Went by the ford dealer yesterday. 13/17 mileage for 06-07 F150's???? Ouch Ive been told its better than that.

Im gonna also consider an older F250 powerstroke. My pops excursion is getting 16/22 mileage afterall...
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I can get an 05 F250 with a powerstroke for the same price as an 06 F150. Think Im goin with the diesel...
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I had tacoma's and now I have a new F150 Lariat 4X4. If I had it to do over with I wouldn't trade 1 tacoma for 10 new F150's unless I knew for sure I could sale them before dark. The toyota would surprise you how well it towed and overall fuel mileage. As far as reliability the only problem with the Toyota after 155k was the hood. It was frozen in place, there was never any reason to raise it. This F150 says it has a flat rear floorboard, better check it out. With the toyota you could put the heat and ac where you wanted it, Fords better idea with their's is regardless of the vent control positions there will be airflow to the floorboard, even in off. That is a real problem on cold mornings or even on hot days running the ac, the air in the floorboard is a lot cooler than the vent air, either your feet are frozen or very uncomfortable, by the way the ford gets less thaan 15mpg without towing. If you have a good Tacoma, count your blessings.
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Ford F 150 all the way !
Better truck.
Way more to chose from = lower purchase price.
More after market.
More repair outlets/parts= lower repair cost.
Great service history.
Lower Ins. cost.
Lower cost per mile.
very impressive new f150's, test drove one for 2 weeks and if i had the money it would be in my bedroom
just because its a toyota doesnt mean its automatically incredible and all the bad things are out weighed by the good. its a train of thought everyone is on, comparing gold to silver, not gold to gold.
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