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Old 03-28-2009, 01:32 PM
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Keep in mind , you can't run Bio in the new trucks that have Particulate traps and if someone starts running Bio in a motor older than the '07's ya better keep a couple extra fuel filters with ya in the truck [ if you never have run Bio through the motor] as the Bio breaks down all the crud in your fuel tank/lines and will clog your filter.

No big deal , just be prepared .
If you clog a fuel filter in a 6.0 Powerstroke it can lead to injector failure. If you run bio in a Ford make sure it is blended properly. If you are not sure of the quality of the fuel don't use it.
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Keep in mind , you can't run Bio in the new trucks that have Particulate traps and if someone starts running Bio in a motor older than the '07's ya better keep a couple extra fuel filters with ya in the truck [ if you never have run Bio through the motor] as the Bio breaks down all the crud in your fuel tank/lines and will clog your filter.

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When starting to burn biodiesel in an older vehicle, it is true that a frequent change in the fuel filter may be order as the bio loosens deposits in the fuel system. However, I do not think it is accurate to say tha bio adversely affects particulate traps found in the newest diesel vehicles. I now own two diesels, the latest I bought just several months ago has a trap so I continue to study the impacts of bio. What I have found is that bio actually helps clear the trap. From a study:

"... the NREL study showed that biodiesel helps to reduce the temperature at which particulates are burned off in the soot trap, lowering back pressures caused by a plugged DPF. Furthermore, with a DPF, the B20 blend “provided an additional 67 percent reduction of PM (particulate matter) beyond what the ULSD provided (also with a DPF),” Jobe explained. The NREL report itself, called “Biodiesel Effects on Diesel Particle Filter Performance,” states, “It is important to note that this additional PM reduction is only 0.0033 g/bhp-hr (grams per brake horsepower hour), a very small reduction from an already very clean engine.” A DPF will trap most soot regardless of the type of fuel used, so whether it traps a hypothetical amount of 95 percent or 95.5 percent PM, the difference—while ostensibly significant—is rather inappreciable, experts say. What is significant is that biodiesel helps lower the temperature at which that trapped soot burns off. ..."

The finding appears to establish that bio reduces the deposits on the trap which has the benefit of causing less backpressure and better fuel economy.

Further, the manufacturer of my trap provisioned diesel allows diesel up to 5% which seems unlikely if bio adversely affects the trap, engine, and potential warranty claims. Also, states are starting to impose a bio mix mandate in all diesel fuel so it will be impossible for some to avoid bio. Minnesota, for example, mandates 2% biodiesel in all fuel in that state.

There may, or may not, be issues associated with high concentrations of biodiesel such as 50% or 100%. For small concentration, say up to 5%, I have read nothing but good news.
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The only additives I see on the chart that I can find...are the ones NOT recommended. Where can I find the additives that work? Bio is not available in N. Florida as far as I know.
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Jag sent you a PM on your question hope it helps.
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WAITING ON WHAT FORD SAID AT THE MEETING regarding fuel additives?

This thread has nothing to do with crankcase oil. In that regard if you hasve a 6.0 then run Chevron DELO 400 in you Ford PS diesel. I have 10 analysis statements on thisengine that I own from Blackstone Labs that are solid as a rock for my 6.0.

Wating on the fuel recomendation results from the guy saying he was going to a Ford meeting as posted above?

Meanwhile, a fuel additive, Power Service Silver keeps my Ford 6.0 rumming at top end, burning rubber and pulling just fine without a chip or nothing.


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This is Ford's take on this topic. I am going to a meeting with Ford today that educates dealers on how fuel quality and maintenance plays a part in making a Powerstroke Diesel perform and last. Fuel quality is a big part of that. Keep in mind that this is a Ford video and is biased to their brand which I sell however I will not link my webpage so as not to spam this board. Watch this video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=caPWc3wgTyc

BTW, I have tried this in my non-EGR equipped 7.3. It does quiet injectors and and also produces slightly better fuel millage due to the more efficient burn.
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I have run Bio in my 04 cummins. It seems to run smoother and not as loud. The farmer making stopped and now I am back to reg diesel, with no ill side effects.
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