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Old 02-19-2009, 04:08 PM
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bought a new boat and trailer. Sea hunt 21' with a dual axle Wesco trailer and a 15 hp Yammaha - brakes or no brakes? What is the law in MA and NH?
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http://www.towingworld.com/articles/TowingLaws.htm
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I hope you mean 150 HP on the boat???? If not, you don't have to worry about brakes!!!
Sorry man, I couldn't resist!!
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I hope you mean 150 HP on the boat???? If not, you don't have to worry about brakes!!!
Sorry man, I couldn't resist!!
LMAO!! I was about to say the same thing.
In all honesty, i would put disk brakes on at least one axl. What kind of vehicle are you towing with?
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Yeah you want brakes, now have them on both axles and I like'em even more... You're pulling 4,000lbs probably, coming down one of those little N.E. hills on a wet road, you'll feel a lot better knowing the trailer isn't pushing you..
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what are you towing with?
If you have a 3/4 ton you could get away with out them, but here in VA 3K or more you are required by law. I do think one set is more then enough for 4K
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Brakes not needed, unless you want to stop without hitting something first.

Please put safety first and invest in some real good quality brakes.
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Yes, you need brakes! Get them on both axles.

Would you order brakes on both axles of a new car if they were an option? There is your answer.

Spend the money the first time on a high-quality set up (corrosion-resistant rotors, calipers and lines) and then you will not have to think about it for a very long time other than for pads and bearing maintenance.

Also think about resale - no way I'm paying as much for a used boat that sits on a trailer without brakes. Might also make me wonder how the boat was operated with respect to safety gear as well.

As they say - do a search. A lot has been written on this topic here in THT.
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That setup will probably be about 4klbs. So whether brakes are required or not actually depends on where you register the trailer. Brakes are required by law in NH for trailers with gross weights of 3000lbs or more. In Mass its trailers over 10,000lbs.

The link provided by bridgeman has the data.

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I agree, brakes are a must to stay leagal and to be as safe as possable.

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thanks guys, the trailer originally had brakes but the previous owner took them off. am towing a 2005 ford f=150 four door. v=8
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-- would not have a trailer wo brakes-- also great if in an accident if over 3000 lbs
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thanks guys, the trailer originally had brakes but the previous owner took them off. am towing a 2005 ford f=150 four door. v=8
The previous owner was an idiot!

In most states, your rig is required to have brakes. In many states, it's required to have brakes on both axles.

Regardless of legal requirements, you should install brakes to insure the safety of yourself, your family, your boat, and others. It's a minor expense compared to the cost of your boat and trailer.
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bought a new boat and trailer. Sea hunt 21' with a dual axle Wesco trailer and a 15 hp Yammaha - brakes or no brakes? What is the law in MA and NH?
Dosent the trailer have surge brakes at least.
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A buddy of mine has a 20' Seahunt, I've pulled it with my f150 and his surburban. He's about 3500#, so brakes aren't required by law an my f150 stops it just fine. Urs being 4k# probably requires it by law. I would think brakes on one axle would be enough. My Sailfish weighs about 6600-6700# with trailer and I have brakes only on one axle and it's just fine. I tow the Sailfish with a f250 though. If you drive like u have some sence u'll be fine with no brakes with the f150 (ur laws may require them though)
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bought a new boat and trailer. Sea hunt 21' with a dual axle Wesco trailer and a 15 hp Yammaha - brakes or no brakes? What is the law in MA and NH?
Don't know about MA or NH. Law of commonsense says YES.
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ABYC recommends brakes for anything over 1,500 pounds. State laws vary but I believe that most state laws kick in at the 3,000 pound mark.

These numbers include the weight of the trailer by the way. So a 2,000 pound boat and a 1,000 pound trailer would require brakes - at least in FL.

Even if the laws in your state say you do not need brakes, you are safer if you have them.

By the way, I also think (but I am not sure) that most laws require brakes on all axles. At least FL does. Again - even if the law says only one axle needs trailer brakes you are safer if you have brakes on both axles.

But hey - you only need brakes if you want to stop right??
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Not sure about our neighbors to the north, but Connecticut requires on trailers over 3000# and on all axles. BTW, they base the requirement on the capacity of the trailer (see the nameplate), not what the rig actually weighs. DMV or SHP should be able to confirm before you get to the DMV to register.
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The rig in my sig pic is a F350 4X4 with New BFG AT's , the boat motor trailer Loaded is right at 6K.
On HWY 1 north bound in LA. coming home from Fourchon I was going 30 MPH [ no trailer breaks , broke the return line , stepped on it ] a big rig did a panic stop . I hit the binders and slid about 50 to 60 feet [ I passed him on the right ] My truck had rear anti-lock .

The breaks were fixed ASAP , night and day differance .

Total weight of that rig [ Truck , trailer and ALL goodies ] loaded to go fishing was right at 14,000 lbs .

I drive for a living , my work truck is a FL80 with a 60' altec boom [ I'm a Lineman sup. ]
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you dont really need them..that truck with a smaller boat shouldnt be all that bad...maybe if you are towing alot it might be a good idea...but if not id pass...and its legal.
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