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Old 11-17-2007, 02:21 AM
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Team,

Checked all my fuses - OK.

Checked all wiring - OK.

Checked battery - OK.

My M80 Trim Tabs do not want to work. I dnot know what to do anymore. Yes, I have inpcested the troublshooting manual - no help.

Fues ok, wiring ok.

When I was first hooking up battery, I hear about three clicking noises under helm (where connections are).

Since then, no sound, no nothing.

Does the small orange wire (from the ATR) need to be connected somewhere if I already have the balck earht of the ATR connected?

AS, I do no thave this small orange wire hooked up yet becuase I do not know where to hooki to.

Any assistance woudl be appreciated.

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Old 11-19-2007, 07:15 AM
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The orange wire from the ATR needs to go to a source that goes to "0" volts when th ignition is switched to the off position. Can you check that out?
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Old 11-19-2007, 11:39 AM
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Thansk Tabman.

What is a source?

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Old 11-19-2007, 11:45 AM
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Tom,

Checked all my fuses - OK.

Checked all wiring - OK.

Checked battery - OK.

My M80 Trim Tabs do not want to work. I dnot know what to do anymore.

I have inpcested the troublshooting manual - no help.

Fues ok, wiring ok.

When I was first hooking up battery, I heared three clicking noises under helm (where connections are).

Since then, no sound, no nothing.

Any assistance woudl be appreciated.

Cam
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Old 11-21-2007, 03:07 AM
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Can anyone assist?
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Old 11-21-2007, 06:30 AM
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Smelly,

source, = wire or connection that when the ignition is onhas 12volts DC and when you shut off the ignition there is no voltage.
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Old 11-21-2007, 06:51 AM
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Smelly,

Please do step 3 in the troubleshooting below. I would like you to do it right at the pump. Then let me know the results.

Thanks,
Tom


Fluid: Automatic Transmission Fluid (ATF) any type. Hydraulic Power Unit is self bleeding, running the Trim Tabs up and down 3-4 times will purge air from the system.

Fuse: 12 volt system use 20 amp in-line fuse on positive. (24v & 32v use proportionately smaller)

Red= Port Valve
Green= Starboard Valve
Blue=Motor Forward (pump pressure)
Yellow= Motor Reverse (pump retract)
Black on HPU=Ground
Orange on Helm=Control Positive

Troubleshooting
1.If one side is not operating reverse hydraulic lines on the front of the Hydraulic Power Unit to determine if the malfunction is in HPU or actuator / hydraulic lines. If after reversing the lines symptom shifts to the other side the malfunction may exist in HPU. If the symptom remains on the same side, malfunction may exist with the actuator / hydraulic lines

2. Is the unit receiving a solid 12 volts? Low voltage will some times cause the solenoids to not open preventing the tabs from moving even though the pump motor is running.

3. Conduct the following test:
Remove the wires from the helm control and touch together as follows:
Operation=Reaction
Orange (+), blue, red= Port trim tab down
Orange (+), blue, green=Starboard trim tab down
Orange (+), blue, red, green= Both trim tabs down
Orange (+), yellow, red= Port trim tab up
Orange (+), yellow, green=Starboard trim tab up
Orange (+), yellow, red, green= Both trim tabs up
If the trim tabs function correctly for each wire grouping then the switch is at fault. Also note that any loose or missing screws on the back of the switch (whether a wire is connected there or not) can cause the pump to malfunction.
This test may also be done right at the pump by substituting a "hot lead" for orange. There is usually a connector to the wire harness within a foot or so of the pump. You want to check this connection for corrosion. You may wish to cut the connector off on the pump side and try the test on bare wires.

4. If you suspect corrosion on the wire connector near the pump, cut it out, test as above and reconnect using butt splices.

5. If you conclude the problem is in the pump, contact me. Bennett Trim Tab Systems carry a five year warranty. We also offer a trade in program for units out of warranty. Contact us for further details after you troubleshoot the system.

6. Check to see if there is a relay in line on the wiring harness near the hydraulic power unit. If there is it is an Interrupter Relay (IR1000). It prevents the system fuse from blowing if you try to actuate one trim tab up and the other down at the same time. After you test as outlined above, try removing the relay from the wiring harness and retest the unit. If it works the IR1000 will need to be replaced
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thanks tom - will play and let u know of outcome..
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Old 11-23-2007, 05:01 AM
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Tom - did all tests. No sound/reaction from pump.

Time for replacement.

Can you arrange for an exchange unit Nearest dealer in QLD Australia please?

Thanks Cameron

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Old 11-26-2007, 06:49 AM
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Cam,

Here are the address for our distributor in Queensland:

Distributor for Eastern Australia

Harrold Marine Wholesale Pty.
Unit 3/19 Success St.
Acacia Ridge
Queensland
Australia 4110
Bus: +61 (7) 3277-6563
Bus Fax: +61 (7) 3277-6567

E-mail: sales@harroldmarine.com.au
Internet: http://www.harroldmarine.com.au/

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