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Old 01-21-2014, 08:13 AM   #1
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How about the talk on doing away with the extra point? Here's the article from yahoo sports. What do you guys think?

I like an automatic 7pt TD with a chance to gain/lose a point dependent on the outcome of the extra attempt. I think it makes the game a little more interesting.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-sh...223535426.html
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I understand where the NFL are coming from, when they say that the extra point is almost automatic. However, I have seen many missed extra points in critical game situations that affect the games outcome.

IMO removing the extra point is a bad idea. Eliminating it will negatively affect the game of Football.

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OK, here is my solution, move the extra point back twenty yards, move the two point conversion from the two yard line to the 1/2 yard line.

Let the coaches figure out what they want to do.
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Old 01-21-2014, 09:17 AM   #4
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Heard a few good ones this morning. Like the idea. Only 5 were missed this entire year out of ~1200 attempts. Approx. less than .5% were missed.
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OK, here is my solution, move the extra point back twenty yards, move the two point conversion from the two yard line to the 1/2 yard line.

Let the coaches figure out what they want to do.
Yes, just make it harder, a longer kick.
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They had the no extra point thing in the XFL. How many players are in the XFL now?

Football is very traditionalist. Thus why I think removing the extra point wouldn't be a good idea.

I do think that going for two every time would be more exciting. But what I heard was... in the event that you fail the 2pt they still plan to give you the one point that you would have got from the kick.
That part, I don't like. The way things are set up now... The extra point is still earned(the kicked ball has to go through the goalpost), whereas in the proposed system it will be given, in the event of failed 2pt attempt.
If you fail an attempt, I think you fail an attempt. And your reward should be just that. A failed attempt.
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They had the no extra point thing in the XFL. How many players are in the XFL now?

Football is very traditionalist. Thus why I think removing the extra point wouldn't be a good idea.

I do think that going for two every time would be more exciting. But what I heard was... in the event that you fail the 2pt they still plan to give you the one point that you would have got from the kick.
That part, I don't like. The way things are set up now... The extra point is still earned(the kicked ball has to go through the goalpost), whereas in the proposed system it will be given, in the event of failed 2pt attempt.
If you fail an attempt, I think you fail an attempt. And your reward should be just that. A failed attempt.

I believe its actually being proposed that you get 7pts automatically for a TD. You can choose weather or not to attempt the "extra" point, but if you attempt it and miss, you lost the 7th point. You score to tie the game, now you get the option to go for the win, and if you fail you lose a point and lose or you choose to keep it and go into OT.

I think it creates the opportunity for some closer games. The whole game strategy would change.
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I believe its actually being proposed that you get 7pts automatically for a TD. You can choose weather or not to attempt the "extra" point, but if you attempt it and miss, you lost the 7th point. You score to tie the game, now you get the option to go for the win, and if you fail you lose a point and lose or you choose to keep it and go into OT.

I think it creates the opportunity for some closer games. The whole game strategy would change.
Wouldn't that be kind of pointless?? The way things are now, you have the same choice.
You go for the extra point to tie.
Or you go for the win on a 2pt conversion.

If what you are saying is correct, this is how things are proposed.....
Score a TD and get 7pts....(assume the PAT is automatic)
Or you go for the win on a 2pt Conversion.... BUT if you happen to miss the 2pt, you lose the extra seventh point only to be awarded 6pts for your touchdown.

So really nothing is changed from a coaches perspective, EXCEPT they don't risk a blown PAT. The way I am looking at this there is more risk using the current system. More risk is more interesting to me.

If we are going to change anything, I say we put the PAT on the 15 and the 2 Pt Conversion on the 5.

I'll read more on this and post about it once I know exactly what's being proposed.
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Wouldn't that be kind of pointless?? The way things are now, you have the same choice.
You go for the extra point to tie.
Or you go for the win on a 2pt conversion.

If what you are saying is correct, this is how things are proposed.....
Score a TD and get 7pts....(assume the PAT is automatic)
Or you go for the win on a 2pt Conversion.... BUT if you happen to miss the 2pt, you lose the extra seventh point only to be awarded 6pts for your touchdown.

So really nothing is changed from a coaches perspective, EXCEPT they don't risk a blown PAT. The way I am looking at this there is more risk using the current system. More risk is more interesting to me.

If we are going to change anything, I say we put the PAT on the 15 and the 2 Pt Conversion on the 5.

I'll read more on this and post about it once I know exactly what's being proposed.
Its basically a restructure. I think you get 6 pts and go for two every time. You get 8 or 6 pts and call it a day. No more extra point to tie (unless you need two pts) or win.
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Dont change a thing. Football is Americas greatest sport!
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The only way I would like to see a change is if they take a kicker from the Lingerie Football League and let them handle the extra points. I think more people would be excited about the "Point After"
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Roger Goodell is ruining football.
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Deadspin had some good suggestions.
1. Make the player who scored the TD kick the PAT.
2. Wherever the TD is scored from, make the PAT be attempted from that point on the field (i.e. if you score just inside the pylon, the ball is kicked from the 2 yard line but from outside the hash marks).
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Deadspin had some good suggestions.
1. Make the player who scored the TD kick the PAT.
2. Wherever the TD is scored from, make the PAT be attempted from that point on the field (i.e. if you score just inside the pylon, the ball is kicked from the 2 yard line but from outside the hash marks).
More like Rugby.

I'd also like to see them have to touch the ball down, since it's called a touch down. None of this "any portion of the ball breaking the plane."
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What does Tony Romo think?
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More like Rugby.

I'd also like to see them have to touch the ball down, since it's called a touch down. None of this "any portion of the ball breaking the plane."
Sounds interesting, but what would happen if the running back leaps over all the way over the goal line, but the defensive team is able to keep the guy in the air and the ball never touches the ground. Is the ball ruled as being stopped on the 1 inch line?
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Why not, Godell is systematically destroying the NFL might as well get rid of all kicking.
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Sounds interesting, but what would happen if the running back leaps over all the way over the goal line, but the defensive team is able to keep the guy in the air and the ball never touches the ground. Is the ball ruled as being stopped on the 1 inch line?
Right. You have to touch the ball down to end the play.

They are two different games. I just like rugby more because the rules make sense to me.

Think metric vs standard. We have our way here in the states and aren't interested in how the other guys do it, even though their way is better.
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Why not, Godell is systematically destroying the NFL
As could be seen by last nights reconfigured NFL Pro Bowl game last night.

Even though the Browns had 6 players in the game I could not stand to watch it.
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As could be seen by last nights reconfigured NFL Pro Bowl game last night.

Even though the Browns had 6 players in the game I could not stand to watch it.
X2,no entertainment value and no consequence like the MLB ALL-STAR game. Best thing they ever did was give the winner of the game home field advantage.
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